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Title: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: ryan2632 on April 06, 2006, 09:16:34 PM
credit for this goes to Kreator666 over at iPodwizard.net
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i've used this a few times over the last month or so. once, just to test it, and again, after upgrading the Apple side of things last week. makes everything automatic, for the most part. the only thing you have to do manually is unzip the build onto your pod. this is great for those who are afraid to go through the install process, are having trouble, or just recently upgraded their Apple firmware. Instructions and everything are in the zip.

http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=8585 (http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=8585)
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: that_asian_guy on April 07, 2006, 01:21:39 PM
Yay! now everyone can install rockbox! Even my grampa or my little brother!
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: Kreator666 on April 07, 2006, 06:09:22 PM
Thanks for linking to it here, ryan.

It is pretty simplistic, but automated enough to quicken up the installation.  As ryan said, all you have to do afterwards is put the rockbox firmware onto the iPod.

Enjoy.
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: jswetzen on April 12, 2006, 12:06:15 PM
This is great!
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: SilleeString on April 12, 2006, 12:18:27 PM
This is great, thanks for contributing!

It's too bad my friends wuss out of using rockbox despite all the perks, otherwise this would be perfect for them.
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: Kreator666 on April 22, 2006, 05:49:29 AM
New version out (Version 5).

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Version 5 by Bjehsus (http://www.ipodwizard.net/member.php?u=9940):
 He has done an excellent job, changing:
-Added a nice GUI.
-Done away with copying files to C:\Rockbox. That was pointless, and not needed.
-Cleaned up the code a bit.
-Merged the installer, the Linux installer, and the uninstaller into one file--Installer.bat.
-Added Mini 2G bootloader support - something that should've been there since the beginning.
-Almost a total re-write, re-structure.

Coming from me, the orginal developer, this is a wonderful job that Bjehsus has done.  It was sorely needed, but I lacked the motivation.  Well done Bjehsus!

Please read the first post of the thread for detailed information! (http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=8585)

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Just wanted to let you guys know over here (Rockbox is, after all, your project :P).  V5 has a GUI and is a lot easier to use, but keep in mind that it is an unofficial development.

Again, read the thread (http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=8585) at iPW if you need more information.
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: CodyM on April 23, 2006, 09:37:48 PM
Just wanted to point out that if you don't use Windows, I wrote this installer that works on any system with a Python port:

http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3571.msg26289
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: Kreator666 on April 24, 2006, 05:37:38 AM
Looks pretty good (although basic), CodyM.

I would like to inform everybody here about version 7 and what has been going on since v5.

Version 5 has been taken down to a bug, addressed in v6.

Change log for v6 through v7:

Version 6 changed/added:
-Major bug fix when trying to install Rockbox along side iPod Linux.
-Automatic iPod location through ipodpatcher.exe.
-Cleaned up more code.
It is very important that you get this update, as version 5 may break your iPod Linux installation. This version won't.

Version 6.1 changed/added:
-iPod Mini 1G support.
-ID variable implemented (because of Mini1G/2G conflicts in building the bootloader), but this should not affect or be visible to the end-user.

Version 7 changed/added:
-Text reader screen to view the ReadMe.txt file (this one) inside the Installer GUI. Available at Main Menu.
-Addition of WGET.EXE program. Big thanks to the developers of the WGET project!
-Support for update/download of bootloader files through WGET. WGET.EXE will compare timestamps and download a new bootloader if your one is obsolete.
-Fixed bug that froze the install process just before making the Rockboot binary. This has been associated to the ID variable not being correctly implemented.
-Code clean-up and minor reorganization.


Thanks for the support so far (that is coming in through our download counters on the iPW forums), development will continue.  I plan to add automatic Daily Build download/extract/move to root soon.

Bjehsus and I would be highly honored if this installer is adopted as the 'official' Rockbox installer, as I believe it to be the most complete.  Regardless, the updates will continue until the product is highly polished.

Thanks all :)
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: scott666 on April 24, 2006, 03:26:45 PM
So I just used this on my 60GB 5G ipod, and everything seemed to work properly, but when I disconnect and reboot the ipod all I get is a screen that says apple.com/support/ipod. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: mehtadone on April 24, 2006, 04:32:26 PM
I get the same
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: smx on April 24, 2006, 04:40:15 PM
So I just used this on my 60GB 5G ipod, and everything seemed to work properly, but when I disconnect and reboot the ipod all I get is a screen that says apple.com/support/ipod. Any thoughts?

I'll third that. However uninstalling the Rockbox fixed the problem it caused.
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: kenailes on April 27, 2006, 12:12:55 AM
i had the same issue, had to restore my ipod to get it to work. i had reinstalled because for about 3 days absolutely no sound would come out when i clicked on a song using hte RB build, but if i booted to the original fw, everything was fine.  after having to reload everything, think i am gonna wait a coupe of weeks and see what else happens. love rockbox for finally bing able to play my flac/ogg/shn file. looking forward to trying it again when my wife's shuffle comes back from the shop and i can run the risk of breaking my ipod agian
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: Kreator666 on May 08, 2006, 04:52:04 AM
I have released version 7.5, and hopefully it has fixed these problems people have been having.

Changes:
-Rewrite and review of code. Not a total rewrite, but all of the process code has been. Hopefully this will fix the 5G problem.

-Addition of automatic iPod generation identification, and what drive letter the iPod belongs to. This means that the screens asking you what your iPod is are not needed, and have therefore been eliminated.

-Reshuffle of events in the code, although you as the end-user wouldn't see too much of it.

-Update to the README document, hopefully being more of a help then before.


Thanks.
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: jdfabian on May 08, 2006, 04:59:07 PM
I tried version 7.5 today, and got the same message the previous posters received.
Title: Emergency: Help with Ipod Video
Post by: icj_j on May 08, 2006, 06:59:41 PM
Hi there,

I installed Rockbox installer V7.5 and followed its intstructions in read me file. I clicked on Installer.bat then asked me for 7za.exe. I copied, 7za.exe  & paste to rockbox folder.  Then run again installer.bat then asked me for bootloader.bin, copied this also to rockbox folder.  Clicked installer.bat then installation process prompted.  After installing I disconnected ipod from pc & experienced errors after.  An exclamation point and folder icon appears on the iPod screen.  I pressed menu/middle button to restart. However, ipod won't reboot.  Can you help me with this situation?  Thanks.  I appreciate.
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: icj_j on May 08, 2006, 07:03:26 PM
Hi there,

I installed Rockbox installer V7.5 and followed its intstructions in read me file. I clicked on Installer.bat then asked me for 7za.exe. I copied, 7za.exe  & paste to rockbox folder.  Then run again installer.bat then asked me for bootloader.bin, copied this also to rockbox folder.  Clicked installer.bat then installation process prompted.  After installing I disconnected ipod from pc & experienced errors after.  An exclamation point and folder icon appears on the iPod screen.  I pressed menu/middle button to restart. However, ipod won't reboot.  Can you help me with this situation?  Thanks.  I appreciate.
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: Kreator666 on May 09, 2006, 03:59:14 AM
@icj_j
It sounds to me like you haven't extracted everything correctly.  Just keep the original folder intact from the zip and you won't have any problems with the file checks at the start.

If the installer will not uninstall it correctly, I recommend that you used forced disk mode (http://www.ipodwizard.net/wiki/index.php/Forced_Disk_Mode), and then update your firmware (through a downgrade and update).


I'm fresh out of ideas for the 5G installation problem. It did work before the GUI versions, but the code is basically the same as before as far as the base process.
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: oldhouse on May 09, 2006, 04:04:10 AM
I can tell u my experience using installer 7.1: I had same boot screen telling me to contact apple support. I then run uninstaller, and ipod came back to its original state. After that I used manual installation, following step by step tutorial, and everything worked fine.
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: Kreator666 on May 10, 2006, 02:27:06 AM
Ok, another new version is out (v7.6).

This has basically made it so that the install process is done within the one folder, therefore subdirectories aren't used at all.  This is what I guess to be the 5G problem - ipod_fw wouldn't recognise the Broadcom extract because it was going through subdirectories.  That should now be fixed.

For download in the iPW thread about it as usual, thanks for the continued support and hopefully this has fixed the problem!
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: oldhouse on May 10, 2006, 02:39:48 AM
Well done. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: Kreator666 on May 10, 2006, 03:50:12 AM
Thanks :)
Can you (or anybody) report that it does indeed work for the 5G?

There really aren't too many more features to be put into the installer from here on.  Bjehsus is apparently working on Doom/Pacman installation as a side-feature.

Are there any features that you guys would like to see built into it?
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: oldhouse on May 10, 2006, 05:07:03 AM
I posted link to your thread on an ipod newsgroup, maybe someone will test it. I have already installed mine so I don't even try uninstalling :D
Just one feature that would be good, is the installation of the ipodloader 2.0 instead of rockbox bootloader, maybe giving user the choice between the 2 booter. That's just an idea of something that could be added, but not so important indeed.
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: Kreator666 on May 11, 2006, 12:39:13 AM
Sounds good, I'm sure that it could be possible to work in.
I'll have a look at it in the future.

Also, it (v7.6) has been confirmed working on 5G iPods :)
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: jswetzen on May 22, 2006, 11:43:24 AM
Could someone make this a sticky????
It's really good to know for new user   :)
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: that_asian_guy on May 22, 2006, 02:19:37 PM
ok um i'm installing rb for a friend who's ipod is mac formatted, and will this automatically change it to fat or do i have to do it myself?
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: Llorean on May 22, 2006, 02:23:09 PM
This should _not_ be a sticky in my opinion. Until it's the official installer, it would be bad for people to report bugs on it, or pester devs for help with it if it causes problems still. Once it is the official installer, then instructions for using it can be put in the wiki more thorougly.
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: Kreator666 on May 23, 2006, 12:48:45 AM
This is the (unofficial, as above) Windows Installer.  It will not automatically format your iPod to FAT32 yet.

We are working on a new version, which will have many more install paths to follow.  Of course, the normal RB bootloader, Loader2 installation, and the installation of RB builds to an iPod with Loader2.  We will do this basically so everybody is covered with this one installer, whether you use iPodLinux or not, or whether you are a new user or not.  This would be one of the final versions until more suggestions come in, because it will cover everything that needs to be covered as far as installing Rockbox goes.

I also agree with Llorean, this really shouldn't be a sticky until it is taken on board as the official installer.  It is unofficial, and therefore not supported by the devs.  At the moment, it is a work in progress and questions about it definitely don't have anything to do with Rockbox devs (as far as, they aren't responsible or necessarily behind this installer).
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: that_asian_guy on May 23, 2006, 02:34:44 PM
could you work on something that will let you install without being administrator?
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: Kreator666 on May 24, 2006, 12:52:46 AM
As far as I know, an Administrator account is needed for ipodpatcher.exe to run read/write commands to the iPod.
This being the case, it would be impossible to make a work around (unless somebody could work with ipodpatcher source to find a different way).

Therefore, it isn't the installer's fault, nor can it be fixed by an installer.
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: raa on June 03, 2006, 03:26:21 AM
will installing rockbox with this remove my songs and videos so i have to put them back on?
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: that_asian_guy on June 03, 2006, 10:52:18 AM
will installing rockbox with this remove my songs and videos so i have to put them back on?

nope
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: Yotto on June 03, 2006, 12:12:37 PM
will installing rockbox with this remove my songs and videos so i have to put them back on?

No, but they won't be super-easy to see.  Apple's iStuff obfuscates the names of the files, and rockbox can't see the iPod's database to match the files with what song they are.

Look into Tagcache, I believe that will solve that problem for you (but I've never used it so if it doesn't.... Well... Not my fault :D )
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: raa on June 03, 2006, 01:11:42 PM
will installing rockbox with this remove my songs and videos so i have to put them back on?

No, but they won't be super-easy to see.  Apple's iStuff obfuscates the names of the files, and rockbox can't see the iPod's database to match the files with what song they are.

Look into Tagcache, I believe that will solve that problem for you (but I've never used it so if it doesn't.... Well... Not my fault :D )

lol thanx.
i already know about tagcache...i just wanted to know about this installer but thnx for answerin my question ;)
Title: Re: iPod Rockbox Installer (Windows)
Post by: Kreator666 on September 18, 2006, 12:53:13 AM
Time for an update...

I am now in the process of porting the whole installer to NSIS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSIS) - the installer script used for programs like Winamp, 7-zip etc.  This will get rid of batch and make the move to an actual installer, therefore making it much more professional, tidy/portable and easier to code.
The process is going well at the moment, but as I am new to the NSIS code it might take a bit of time to do.

Also, I have come across the problem of the new iPod firmware versions for the 5G and Nano not making use of the sysinfo file (therefore destroying the automatic iPod detection feature).  This problem is yet to be solved, and if it can't be, our last resort will be just to ask the user for where the iPod is etc.

Anybody got some feedback on either the move to NSIS or the Sysinfo problem?