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Title: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: rasher on June 30, 2011, 12:11:00 PM
I will be hosting, until a time when official daily builds become available, builds of Rockbox for Android, updated daily. I'll not be updating this thread unless something dramatically changes.

The builds will be unmodified from SVN, as with my simulator builds.

Find them on http://rasher.dk/rockbox/android/

I'll add resolutions if requested (but keep in mind the lack of default themes).
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Artmuzz on July 18, 2011, 07:01:05 AM
Hi, Any chance of 800x480 build for my Cowon D3 Android?

Cheers
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: rasher on July 18, 2011, 07:29:40 AM
Hi, Any chance of 800x480 build for my Cowon D3 Android?
Sure thing. It's there now.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Artmuzz on July 18, 2011, 03:12:39 PM
Thanks :) Unfortunately Rockbox is still very unstable.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: captmonkey4777 on August 18, 2011, 05:44:13 PM
Hi Rasher,

Great work on your builds!!

I have the Samsung Galaxy 7" tab and I've installed your 1024x600 apk. Is there anyway I can simply change the orientation to have it sit in portrait mode? If there isn't, could you please post a version that be displayed in 600x1024?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: mr.pi on October 05, 2011, 03:14:56 AM
Hello rockbox folks,

i used rockbox on my gigabeat an now i own an motorola defy. i tried the rasher build and everthing seems fine. but where can i find the widget. if i try to add a widget nothing no rockbox stuff is in the lists.
thx for help

best regards the pi ???
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: AlexP on October 05, 2011, 05:11:01 AM
Did you move it to the SD Card?  If so, then move it back to the phone.  This is a limitation of Android, widgets can't be on SD.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on October 16, 2011, 10:56:05 PM
Just installed Rockbox for Android on the newly released Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0.  (nice little tablet)

Rasher's 800x480 build (Thank you).  Default cabbie 2.0 theme.

Works quite well.

Suggestions for the config file before starting:

volume: -73
font: /.rockbox/fonts/35-Adobe-Helvetica.fnt

Or one may find the application difficult to navigate and the sound extremely loud.   :)

Album art works fine.  EQ settings and Bass Treble don't work (crash).  But is is very usable, sounds good with .ogg -q7 & -q8.  Navigation seems quick  GAPLESS!!!!!

Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: saratoga on October 16, 2011, 11:06:28 PM
The regular EQ crashes?  I can't think of a reason why that should happen, it shouldn't touch the app parts at all.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on October 17, 2011, 01:46:03 AM
Was able to turn on the EQ and used the simple EQ, not the graphical one because of the very small font size and display. I can try again and test further.

UPDATE: The Samsung 5 (for the USA) uses Android 2.3.5.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on October 17, 2011, 02:45:17 AM
TexasRockbox,

If you don't mind using your tablet in portrait orientation...you can install a 480x800 .apk (from rasher's daily builds) and my theme from the tracker (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12254?project=1&type=4&order=dateopened&sort=desc) which should increase the usability for you *immensely*...

Let me know how you get on.


[Saint]
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on October 18, 2011, 01:04:41 AM
Wow!

Portrait is fine, just wanted to see a landscape Rockbox build.  Installed 480x800 and your theme.  Thank you very, very much!  I'm getting on quite nicely.

Somehow, I was under the impression that Android themes were an intrinsic part of the build -- that is, new theme or any change to a theme -> new build required.  I definitely had the wrong impression.

Thank you to all those working on the RaaA.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: wiQbold on October 18, 2011, 12:54:14 PM
I like RockBoxports since my MotoA780.
Thanks a lot that I ve had it now for my HTC DesireHD

keep on your good work
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on October 22, 2011, 04:46:29 PM
The regular EQ crashes?  I can't think of a reason why that should happen, it shouldn't touch the app parts at all.

When using the EQ .OGG Vorbis files seem to cause the crash.

I tried .m4a files, no crash using the EQ and Bass/Treble worked as well.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on October 27, 2011, 05:56:45 PM
Does the database.ignore function work with these builds and, if so, where should database.ignore be located to avoid Android .ogg files?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on October 27, 2011, 06:00:48 PM
Does the database.ignore function work with these builds and, if so, where should database.ignore be located to avoid Android .ogg files?

It's Rockbox...so, yes.

You'll need to be rooted for this, so, I hope you are :)

You want to put the database.ignore in /system/media/audio/

And then you'll avoid the database picking up your ringtones, etc. You'll also want to put a database.ignore file in the root of your sdcard, and put a database.unignore file in any directories that you want Rockbox to look in, as some Android apps like to store app data (which may or may not include audio lifes) on the sdcard.



[Saint]

EDIT: This could be done with ADB push, also.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on October 27, 2011, 06:18:54 PM
Thank you!

I suspected as much  I bought the Samsung YP-G70/CWY  on Oct. 15 (day before release).  I'm not brave enough to root it (yet) although I have read that the device may be rooted already.

I'm really liking your theme.  It, uh, *Rocks*!
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on October 27, 2011, 07:31:24 PM
Thank you!

I suspected as much  I bought the Samsung YP-G70/CWY  on Oct. 15 (day before release).  I'm not brave enough to root it (yet) although I have read that the device may be rooted already.

I'm really liking your theme.  It, uh, *Rocks*!
Thanks.

You _might_ be able to achieve this with ADB push?

adb shell
su
adb remount
adb push database.unignore /system/media/audio
exit
exit

Shameless plug: You can follow theme updates from me at either my Google+ (http://www.google.com/profiles/100067000465805237472) or Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/Hayden_Pearce) accounts.


[Saint]
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dip on October 30, 2011, 12:58:34 PM
I just recognized that CPU usage of rockbox on my Samsung Galaxy S (running Gingerbread 2.3.5) is usually between 15% and 25% (most of the time about 20%) during playback. Even when playback is paused a CPU usage of about 2% is shown in the task manager. For other players like the stock Samsung player or Winamp most of the time 0% CPU usage is shown (what I don't understand, how can it be 0%?).
Does that mean that rockbox will drain my battery much faster than the other players? And does anybody know why there is such a big difference in CPU usage compared to the other players?
I do not use any EQ (even no bass or treble).
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: miow on October 30, 2011, 10:18:25 PM
Hi,

Ok, I got the .apk file for the Cowon D3 and now what? Where do I put it? In the Cowon's route? Its my first experience with Android, so don't laugh at me :P
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on October 30, 2011, 11:14:27 PM
Make sure Android is configured to allow program installation from sources other than the Android Store.

Download the file directly onto the D3 from rasher's site.

There should be an option to install the program.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: miow on October 31, 2011, 02:33:14 AM
Thanks a tone. I'm just wondering where are all those options.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on October 31, 2011, 02:38:10 AM
It was slightly poorly worded.
There's only one option you need to worry about:

Settings - Applications - Unknown Sources (make sure this is checked)

After that, simply transfer the .apk file to your device's sdcard, then navigate to this file and select it. It will then prompt you to begin the installation.

That's all.



[Saint]
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: miow on October 31, 2011, 02:53:03 AM
Thanks so much  ;)

Post Merge: October 31, 2011, 05:17:05 AM
Anybody knows if I will have rockbox + BBE activated at the same time on the Cowon D3, when using rockbox?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on October 31, 2011, 08:10:30 PM
Quote
Anybody knows if I will have rockbox + BBE activated at the same time on the Cowon D3, when using rockbox?

I see no reason why not...


[Saint]
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Ezraghast on October 31, 2011, 08:25:51 PM
Anybody knows if I will have rockbox + BBE activated at the same time on the Cowon D3, when using rockbox?

My understanding is that BBE on Cowon devices is sound enhancement applied in software so I would say 'no' to that, but I'm open to correction.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: miow on November 01, 2011, 10:21:18 AM
I tested the rockbox 480x800 Android on a orange Monte Carlo Cell Phone and the 6 band EQ is so small I can't touch it...  It's very very small on the top of the screen. Impossible to work with. Does the same happen on the Cowon D3? If it does, can't you correct this?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Chronon on November 01, 2011, 11:18:23 AM
Try using "Advanced EQ" instead.  It gives access to the same parameters as the graphical EQ.  Maybe it will be usable. 
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: miow on November 01, 2011, 12:08:03 PM
Yes, the EQ is the same thing on the Cowon D3. Too small to be usable.  :'( Can't you PLEASE correct this?

Post Merge: November 01, 2011, 12:12:39 PM
Try using "Advanced EQ" instead.  It gives access to the same parameters as the graphical EQ.  Maybe it will be usable. 
Wheres cutoff?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on November 01, 2011, 12:24:10 PM
Check the low shelf filter -> Cutoff frequency, same for the high shelf filter.  The other three filters utilize "Centre Frequency".
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: miow on November 01, 2011, 12:27:37 PM
Check the low shelf filter -> Cutoff frequency, same for the high shelf filter.  The other three filters utilize "Centre Frequency".
Ohh, I see. ;) Thanks mate.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on November 01, 2011, 01:07:34 PM
You're welcome!
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: miow on November 01, 2011, 01:11:21 PM
Anyways, guys, you could make the graphical EQ usable. That would be awesome.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: saratoga on November 01, 2011, 06:11:02 PM
Anyways, guys, you could make the graphical EQ usable. That would be awesome.

Or instead of telling us you could get to work on it yourself ;) 
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: miow on November 02, 2011, 02:49:08 AM
Oh, I would, believe me. But I know nothing about it  :-\
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on November 03, 2011, 03:53:36 AM
My understanding is that BBE on Cowon devices is sound enhancement applied in software so I would say 'no' to that, but I'm open to correction.

Why would expect it to fall over in this case?


[Saint]
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: miow on November 03, 2011, 02:48:45 PM
My understanding is that BBE is an hardware based effect (I'm not talking about the Cowons EQ, just BBE), so it should work along with rockbox.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Ezraghast on November 03, 2011, 06:52:48 PM
Why would expect it to fall over in this case?

I meant that it seems to be application specific and not a global setting and not in hardware. I had a Cowon D2 and, while it wasn't running an OS like Android, it obviously couldn't use BBE inside Rockbox. I don't own a D3 so probably should have kept my mouth shut! ;)
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on November 07, 2011, 11:45:08 AM
Why would expect it to fall over in this case?

I meant that it seems to be application specific and not a global setting and not in hardware. I had a Cowon D2 and, while it wasn't running an OS like Android, it obviously couldn't use BBE inside Rockbox. I don't own a D3 so probably should have kept my mouth shut! ;)

The difference here is that Rockbox is an OS replacement on the D2...whereas Rockbox as an Application is, well...exactly that, an application on the D3. A guest, inside an already running OS.
So the OS is perfectly capable of taking the audio and pissing around with it further in software if it wants to.

I wasn't calling you out, or trying to flame & shame. I was genuinely curious if you knew of a specific reason why it would fall over in this case.


[Saint]
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: miow on November 07, 2011, 07:55:16 PM
Exactly. And I had the confirmation that yes, it does work.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Falco98 on November 19, 2011, 04:00:02 AM
I get a pretty consistent and pestersome issue when using the latest build (at least, as of a few days ago) on my Thunderbolt.  Intermittently, but often, when either re-entering the app thru the status bar, or turning the screen back off while the WPS is up, I lose audio and playback completely - the program is up and responsive, i can hit "play / pause", but the timer does not tick and no sound is made.  I am then forced to manually close (or let the auto-shutoff timer expire) and then freshly open the app to get sound back.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dfkt on November 24, 2011, 01:56:16 PM
Anybody knows if I will have rockbox + BBE activated at the same time on the Cowon D3, when using rockbox?

My understanding is that BBE on Cowon devices is sound enhancement applied in software so I would say 'no' to that, but I'm open to correction.

BBE is global on the D3, it works in every audio and video app. Rockbox + BBE = now I can die happy.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: cronos1388 on December 01, 2011, 01:33:03 PM
I get a pretty consistent and pestersome issue when using the latest build (at least, as of a few days ago) on my Thunderbolt.  Intermittently, but often, when either re-entering the app thru the status bar, or turning the screen back off while the WPS is up, I lose audio and playback completely - the program is up and responsive, i can hit "play / pause", but the timer does not tick and no sound is made.  I am then forced to manually close (or let the auto-shutoff timer expire) and then freshly open the app to get sound back.

I have this problem as well and chalk it up to the software being very beta. It's a little frustrating and inconvenient but a small price to pay for being able to use Rockbox on my Droid Bionic. I've always missed it since my F40 decided to give out on me last year.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: a_b_c_d on December 17, 2011, 03:33:23 PM
Love the design of these recent builds.
It's great being able to replace an music player device by an android smartphone completely.

Not sure if it's the right place to ask, but: Can the repeat from A to B function be used with this build? If so I'm too dumb figuring out how to do it.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Yakuman on January 18, 2012, 02:45:24 AM
Have the daily builds stopped? The most recent one was 2012-01-02.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Falco98 on January 26, 2012, 01:44:25 AM
I have this problem as well and chalk it up to the software being very beta. It's a little frustrating and inconvenient but a small price to pay for being able to use Rockbox on my Droid Bionic. I've always missed it since my F40 decided to give out on me last year.
crap, i only just saw your reply here... but thanks for commenting, it's nice to know that it's not just me having the issue, and (for what it's worth) that it's not just on the Thunderbolt.  I'm only now about to upgrade to the latest build (even though it's more than 2 weeks old now) and maybe, just maybe, that might fix it?  It seems doubtful but I'll hope.

Edited to add:  The most recent build (as mentioned, it's from a few weeks ago now), doesn't *seem* to still have my aforementioned error, but it *seems* to now simply crash on any track change (manual or automatic, even when crossfade is disabled).  I need to test this out a bit more, of course, but was wondering if anyone else could confirm or reproduce this.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: VeA_Alfalfa on January 28, 2012, 11:28:46 AM
Thank you for the new build. Now vorbis works again.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Falco98 on January 28, 2012, 10:07:37 PM
Thank you for the new build. Now vorbis works again.
Indeed.. track change no longer crashes, but my previous bug is now reproducible again (but then, i'm not sure my inability to reproduce it on the 1-2 build wasn't just a fluke).
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: VeA_Alfalfa on January 30, 2012, 12:08:14 PM
First, thank you for your work rasher.
I hope sometime I will also be able to compile Rockbox. I hang at an error with the variable for the Android SDK at the config. I have not so much free time to test something after my work. :(

Now the sad thing... in some cases it still crash . I have no idea why.

Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: a_b_c_d on January 30, 2012, 08:59:16 PM
Just a note: The sound of mp4-video-files is played by rockbox, but it tends to crash the whole GUI of rockbox on android from time to time (black screen instead of rockbox, but sound plays on).
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on March 06, 2012, 05:21:24 PM
Would it be possible to have a 1280x752 build (Samsung Galaxy 7.7)?

Thank you for your time and builds!

Update:

Nevermind (I guess).  I see a reviews where the screen resolution is specified at 1280x752 or 1280x800.  I've been informed that the bar at the bottom makes  the height 752.  Running the 1280x800 installation of RaaA results in a message about stretching or zooming the image.

Would one get that message if using no theme but the Rockbox default?  We'll find out, I guess.

I'm working on a 1280x800 theme.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: evilnick on March 07, 2012, 12:13:34 PM
You're right, the full resolution is 1280x800 but the bar at the bottom (status bar? button bar? I'm not sure of the official name) takes up some of the 800 pixels. This can actually be removed/hidden if your device is rooted.

The Zoom/Stretch dialogue can be safely ignored, and please keep us updated about a 1280x800 theme, since I'm very interested in using RB on my GTab 10.1 :)
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dip on March 20, 2012, 12:12:54 PM
On my Samsung Galaxy S the most recent builds all crash on any track change (manual or automatic). This was previously reported as being fixed. Does anybody else still have this problem like me?

I installed rockbox completley new (deleting the whole rockbox directory on my sd card) but still have this problem. I am running Android 2.3.6.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dip on March 23, 2012, 10:57:59 AM
With version 5513c6d of March 23, 2012 rockbox does no longer crash on track changes  :)

But it still crashes on long pressing the play/pause button (which previously stopped playback). Does anybody else also have the "crash on stop" problem?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on April 01, 2012, 02:32:43 PM
Has anyone noticed different scroll behavior between Gingerbread and Honeycomb?

On my Samsung Galaxy 5 Player 2.3.5 device (480x800 build) scrolling through the file browser is smooth.

On my Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 3.2 device (1280x800) scrolling through the file browser is jerky and goes back to the top of the file list.

I tried the 480x800 build on the 1280x800 device and the scrolling is still jerky.

These are default installs with the latest builds of each, no theme installed -- whatever is installed by default.

Post Merge: April 02, 2012, 02:05:27 PM
Would it be possible to add a 800x1280 build (portrait)?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: kugel. on April 04, 2012, 02:22:32 PM
On my Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 3.2 device (1280x800) scrolling through the file browser is jerky and goes back to the top of the file list.

There's a bug with kinetic scrolling and scrollbar on the left somewhere in the code.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on April 09, 2012, 12:05:09 AM
Seems to working OK (so far) on Android 4.0.3 (ICS).

I'm wondering about the resolution and the effect of the status bar.

Instead of custom resolutions how about a range of builds of 4:3, 16:9, and 16:10 for small, medium, large resolutions screens.  Then, create a theme that will fit the screen resolution.

For example, if my Android tablet had a screen that was 1024x768 I could install a 1280x800 Rockbox build and design a theme for the 1024x768, right?  There might be some wasted memory but it should work, right?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dip on April 09, 2012, 05:26:20 PM
With version 5513c6d of March 23, 2012 rockbox does no longer crash on track changes  :)

But it still crashes on long pressing the play/pause button (which previously stopped playback). Does anybody else also have the "crash on stop" problem?
I tried version bb0e4cc of April 6, 2012 and now long pressing the play/pause button does no longer result in crashing rockbox but stops playback. This is great!
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dip on April 12, 2012, 04:59:47 PM
With version 73732f4-120412 (or another version after bb0e4cc-120406) the bug has been reintroduced. Rockbox crashes again when long pressing the play/pause button instead of stopping playback.  :(
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dip on April 19, 2012, 04:52:59 PM
With version e92fbb4-120417 rockbox still crashes on long pressing the play/pause button on my Samsung Galaxy S running Android 2.3.6 (JW4). Going back to bb0e4cc-120406  :(
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: kugel. on April 20, 2012, 12:54:39 PM
Works fine on the 04/11 build I am running. Can you provide the logcat output when it's crashing?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dip on April 20, 2012, 02:35:27 PM
It runs fine on the 04/06 build but not on the 04/12 build. I don't have the 04/11 build to test whether it works.

I enclose my logcat output during crashing. I hope it is useful.

I just managed to compile rockbox for android and I will now try to checkout and compile different versions between 04/06 and 04/12 to find which change causes the crash.

Post Merge: April 20, 2012, 04:40:40 PM
I compiled and tested now all versions between the working version bb0e4cc of 04/05 and the crashing version 73732f4 of 04/11 and found that the bug was introduced with version 688302a of 04/08 13:15. All earlier versions (back to bb0e4cc of 04/05) are working and all later versions are crashing.

I hope this helps to find and solve the problem.

Post Merge: April 20, 2012, 07:26:02 PM
It may be a little bit off topic  :'( but how can I bring up the playlist viewer menu with the playlist viewer settings like "show icons", "show indices" and "track display" (to select between file name only and full path for playlist entries) in the Android version. Since there are no hardware buttons I have no idea how to enter these menus (which was, I guess, pressing long SELECT while viewing the current playlist on my old ipod video). I did not find a manual for the Android version, probably since it is still not a supported version.

I would be very thankful if somebody could point me to the correct direction.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: kugel. on April 23, 2012, 02:43:56 AM
It runs fine on the 04/06 build but not on the 04/12 build. I don't have the 04/11 build to test whether it works.

I enclose my logcat output during crashing. I hope it is useful.

I just managed to compile rockbox for android and I will now try to checkout and compile different versions between 04/06 and 04/12 to find which change causes the crash.

Post Merge: April 20, 2012, 04:40:40 PM
I compiled and tested now all versions between the working version bb0e4cc of 04/05 and the crashing version 73732f4 of 04/11 and found that the bug was introduced with version 688302a of 04/08 13:15. All earlier versions (back to bb0e4cc of 04/05) are working and all later versions are crashing.

I hope this helps to find and solve the problem.
Works just fine on my legend. Tried the latest rasher build. Can you share you config.cfg?

Quote

Post Merge: April 20, 2012, 07:26:02 PM
It may be a little bit off topic  :'( but how can I bring up the playlist viewer menu with the playlist viewer settings like "show icons", "show indices" and "track display" (to select between file name only and full path for playlist entries) in the Android version. Since there are no hardware buttons I have no idea how to enter these menus (which was, I guess, pressing long SELECT while viewing the current playlist on my old ipod video). I did not find a manual for the Android version, probably since it is still not a supported version.

I would be very thankful if somebody could point me to the correct direction.

Long press on the menu button or long touch on a menu item brings up the context menu. But I notice the settings submenu is gone. Need to investigate.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dip on April 23, 2012, 06:29:30 AM
Works just fine on my legend. Tried the latest rasher build. Can you share you config.cfg?
here it is. Is it the one you wanted? It's from /sdcard/rockbox and there's not much in it.
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Long press on the menu button or long touch on a menu item brings up the context menu. But I notice the settings submenu is gone. Need to investigate.
I thought it must be long pressing the menu button but I did not find the settings submenu, that's why I tought there must be another way to call it. Thanks for the response.

Another question relating to the Android port (or general to touch screen versions): How can one highlight an entry in a list without selecting it. For example, if I am in the playlist viewer showing the list of just playing songs with my ipod (running rockbox) I was able to scroll through the list which moved the higligting bar through the list and then I could select the desired entry by pressing enter. With the touchscreen I found no way only to highlight a certain entry. This is important if all entries are very long and have the same starting text. For example "Ludwig von Beethoven, Symphony No. 9 - 1. Adagio" cannot be distinguished from "Ludwig von Beethoven, Symphony No. 9 - 2. Andante" in the playlist viewer since the distinguishing part is cut off. With my ipod I could highlight the entries with the scroll weehl and the highlighted line started horizontally scrolling so I could see the complete text. With the Android port I can only touch the line, but touching the line does not only highlight it but also selects it and so starts playing. That's why I ask. This problem also exists in other list with long entries.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: kugel. on April 30, 2012, 03:57:04 AM
Works just fine on my legend. Tried the latest rasher build. Can you share you config.cfg?
here it is. Is it the one you wanted? It's from /sdcard/rockbox and there's not much in it.

Still not able to reproduce :\
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dip on April 30, 2012, 04:04:14 AM
Didn't you see anything from my logcat output?

Or can I test anything further to find the problem?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dip on May 03, 2012, 09:56:43 AM
@kugel:
In version 688302a (checked in by you and which is the first crashing version) only apps/gui/bitmap/list.c has been changed and the description says:

touchscreen: Rewrite kinetic scrolling using a state machine.

Which of these changes can have an influence on long pressing the play button?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: kugel. on May 05, 2012, 03:28:46 AM
Which resolution is your device?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dip on May 05, 2012, 03:48:52 AM
480x800 Galaxy S
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: yceberko on May 09, 2012, 03:01:01 AM
It may be a little off topic, But I wonder if rockbox for android, would ever support the pause/play & pre/next buttons on a headphone remote, such as the remote which comes with the htc, or similar ! (Rockbox already stops & resumes playback when getting calls, including when using the remote to answer)
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: evilnick on May 09, 2012, 08:09:34 AM
It's already possible to control RB running on Android with a "remote helper" application, but that's an extra hassle. I know that some music apps support this natively, so assume that it'll get added to Rockbox at some point.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dip on May 09, 2012, 04:14:49 PM
I compiled the current version d29a11b but now the problems are even worse. Version d29a11b crashes rockbox as soon as I try to play any song (maybe I should have mentioned that I use ogg vorbis files).

I looked through the change logs and found that in version c9bcbe2 it was stated "Fundamentally rewrite much of the audio DSP". In order to test if this change my be the reason for the crash I first compiled version c9c1349 which was immediately commited before c9bcbe2 and in this version playback still works. Then I compiled c9bcbe2 and rockbox crashes as soon as I try to play any song. So it seems that version c9bcbe2 introduced a severe bug (at least for playing ogg vorbis files on my device).

Although version c9c1349 does not crash on playback it still crashes on long pressing the play button (which was introduced with version 688302a as previously reported). Maybe this problem is also related to ogg vorbis files only?

And finally I found that the behavior of the hardware back key has been changed. Usually, when pressing the hardware back key rockbox goes up e.g. one menu level or it leaves the wps screen to the browse menu. Now when pressing the hardware back key rockbox exits the application so you can't use this key any longer to go back through the browse menus.

I have to go back to version a12b2a5 which is the last working version on my device  :(
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: saratoga on May 09, 2012, 04:29:26 PM
I looked through the change logs and found that in version c9bcbe2 it was stated "Fundamentally rewrite much of the audio DSP". In order to test if this change my be the reason for the crash I first compiled version c9c1349 which was immediately commited before c9bcbe2 and in this version playback still works. Then I compiled c9bcbe2 and rockbox crashes as soon as I try to play any song. So it seems that version c9bcbe2 introduced a severe bug (at least for playing ogg vorbis files on my device).

File a bug report.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dip on May 11, 2012, 05:13:22 PM
File a bug report.
Filed five bug reports  ;D
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: bluebrother on May 12, 2012, 04:52:05 AM
Filed five bug reports  ;D

Please be concise with the bug report. People get notifications by email, and if there are a bunch of notifications all starting with "Task opened: In Rockbox for Android ..." people are likely to stop reading -- all those summary lines look the same (remember, such a long line will be truncated in most cases when displaying). Besides, it's pretty likely that, if you file a bug, it appears in Rockbox since it's the Rockbox issue tracker. Don't state the obvious (at least in the summary, the detailed description is a different story).
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dip on May 12, 2012, 05:50:48 AM
Please be concise with the bug report. People get notifications by email, and if there are a bunch of notifications all starting with "Task opened: In Rockbox for Android ..." people are likely to stop reading -- all those summary lines look the same (remember, such a long line will be truncated in most cases when displaying). Besides, it's pretty likely that, if you file a bug, it appears in Rockbox since it's the Rockbox issue tracker. Don't state the obvious (at least in the summary, the detailed description is a different story).
Ok. Can I change the summeries to make them more concise? I didn't find a was to change existing summeries.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: kugel. on May 12, 2012, 09:34:14 AM
It's already possible to control RB running on Android with a "remote helper" application, but that's an extra hassle. I know that some music apps support this natively, so assume that it'll get added to Rockbox at some point.

It should work with wired remotes. Bluetooth remote headsets are a different matter, and I don't know how to support them (IIUC you need per-device code).
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Weaves on May 14, 2012, 06:59:32 PM
I just wanted to point out that the last 3 builds (all in May) have caused my Cowon d3 (with Ogg files) to crash.

I am able to install, initialize the database.  However, once I re-boot, I receive the following white screen message:

Panic
audio_reset_buffer_noalloc(): EOM(65536>0
bt pc: 0x81057ae0, sp: 0x4462fa80
      A: 0x81057b90
      A: 0x81057c08
      A: 0x8103066c
      A: 0x81030dfc
      A: 0x8101ac40
bt end

EDIT 5/18- None of the newer builds fix this problem.  The last good working build was 4/17 (392fbb4-120417).  If I get a chance this weekend, I will wipe out my library and try a newer build with Flac or MP3 files.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on May 15, 2012, 04:44:19 PM
Has anyone else noticed that the setting choice bar disappears when a setting is made?

For example, if equalizer is turned "on" then when one goes back to the equilizer setting the bar indicating "on" is no longer present.  The equalizer is turned on but there is no indication of that status except in the config file.

As best I can tell this behavior started happening after sometime in early March.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Njones on June 14, 2012, 07:25:03 AM
I have downloaded the latest build to my desktop. Where do I put it on my Samsung Galaxy 4.2? My device is set to accept outside apps. I am new to android.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Ezraghast on June 22, 2012, 08:07:06 PM
I have downloaded the latest build to my desktop. Where do I put it on my Samsung Galaxy 4.2? My device is set to accept outside apps. I am new to android.

Connect the player to your desktop PC, transfer the downloaded .apk file from your desktop computer to your player's main memory or microSD card. Disconnect the player from your computer and find the .apk file on the player itself. Select/tap it and it should ask you if you want to install. Select ok and you should be done. Think of an apk file as being a little like an exe file for a Windows PC or a dmg file for Mac.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Njones on June 23, 2012, 04:30:30 PM
Thanks, that worked
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: a_b_c_d on July 04, 2012, 10:53:15 AM
On the Motorola Defy+, as well as the Samsung Nexus S the Rockbox GUI crashes from time to time. This means the rockbox app only shows a black screen, while the music plays along flawlessly. One thing that doesn't work when the GUI crashes is the function which pauses android in case the headphones get unplugged.
This behaviour can be witnessed on all versions of rasher's unmodified Rockbox for Android versions I tested so far (should have been more than ten).

Is there hope of improvement? Is this bug known?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: bossi on July 05, 2012, 03:40:59 PM
Hi there,

i just bought an Samsung Galaxy S Wifi 4.2 and installed the rockbox app. Everything works fine so far, but coming from an Archos Jukebox Recorder I miss the voice features.

I have activated voice menus and usage of the .talk clips in the settings, but it does not work at all. What do I need to do to get voice working?

Regards,

Bossi
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: bluebrother on July 05, 2012, 04:12:11 PM
I have activated voice menus and usage of the .talk clips in the settings, but it does not work at all. What do I need to do to get voice working?

The same as on every other Rockbox device: install a voice file for the menus and talk clips for files.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: bossi on July 05, 2012, 04:43:18 PM
The same as on every other Rockbox device: install a voice file for the menus and talk clips for files.

OK, understood, but how do I install the voice file, or in which directory should i put the voice file?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Philip on July 10, 2012, 12:00:14 PM
On the Motorola Defy+, as well as the Samsung Nexus S the Rockbox GUI crashes from time to time. This means the rockbox app only shows a black screen, while the music plays along flawlessly. One thing that doesn't work when the GUI crashes is the function which pauses android in case the headphones get unplugged.
This behaviour can be witnessed on all versions of rasher's unmodified Rockbox for Android versions I tested so far (shold have been more than ten).

Is there hope of improvement? Is this bug known?

Want to add that i get the same thing on the LG 2x running various roms / kernels / basebands

Also, why did the android status bar get disabled? It worked fine while it was included and would at least be a nice option to have (enable / disable in settings for example)
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: kirbmasta on July 12, 2012, 02:16:20 AM
Installed the 480x800 on my HTC EVO 4G, and I've been having a problem with the volume control. Sometimes, when changing the volume, the phone will jump from whatever volume I had it at back to 0db. This has happened a number of ways, including using the side buttons, the touch interface on the now playing screen, and the scrolling list in the sound settings. The problem wasn't present at first, or at least I hadn't noticed it as much, but the jumps in volume are very frequent now, happening almost constantly. I just installed the most recent build but the problem persists.

I had tried to make my own theme a week earlier, so my best guess is that I accidentally altered a config file in a way I shouldn't have and that is causing the problem. I gave up on the theme however and I switched back to the cabbie theme that comes with the build. Any insight into this would be appreciated.

Also, regardless I love what you've done here :) I really missed rockbox after I lost my sansa, and the app is already leagues ahead of anything I've found on the market! Keep up the great work :D


Edit: I tested it out a bit more, and if I use the touch volume control on the now playing screen it will spike for a split second, but does stay at the volume I tell it to. Controlling media volume while the app is in the background also works as it should. I also tried clearing my settings but this did not seem to affect anything.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: kugel. on July 16, 2012, 01:26:02 AM
The same as on every other Rockbox device: install a voice file for the menus and talk clips for files.

OK, understood, but how do I install the voice file, or in which directory should i put the voice file?

It's not supported at the moment. You'd need to install the voice files into a directory not reachable from the file browser.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: a_b_c_d on July 22, 2012, 01:55:05 PM
On the Motorola Defy+, as well as the Samsung Nexus S the Rockbox GUI crashes from time to time. This means the rockbox app only shows a black screen, while the music plays along flawlessly. One thing that doesn't work when the GUI crashes is the function which pauses android in case the headphones get unplugged.
This behaviour can be witnessed on all versions of rasher's unmodified Rockbox for Android versions I tested so far (shold have been more than ten).

Is there hope of improvement? Is this bug known?

Want to add that i get the same thing on the LG 2x running various roms / kernels / basebands

Also, why did the android status bar get disabled? It worked fine while it was included and would at least be a nice option to have (enable / disable in settings for example)

My android/rockbox problem is still persistent, even with CyanogenMod9 (Android 4.0.4) on the Motorola Defy+.
Is there a possiblity to get additional technical information to specify our problems?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: a_b_c_d on July 25, 2012, 08:20:56 AM
Could some give me a tip regarding finding this bug?
Is there a way to provide feedback for android-related rockbox problems?
And if there is: Which logs are needed?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on July 26, 2012, 01:21:08 PM
Could some give me a tip regarding finding this bug?
Is there a way to provide feedback for android-related rockbox problems?
And if there is: Which logs are needed?

It is noticed on Cyanogenmod CM9 RC builds.  It seems to be related to the lock screen/display off/power button.  If one has the lock screen enabled and awakens the device with a power button push there is a quick flash of the lock screen then the screen goes dark otherwise the device remains dark and either a long press power button or battery removal is the recovery method.  I've tried turning the CRT animation off, animations off, etc. to no avail.  I have a couple of themes so it doesn't seem to be a theme-specific problem.  Might be best to go back to a Gingerbread build of Cyanogenmod -- it doesn't to have the problem.

Food for thought: I have never-hacked devices with *official*, non-rooted ICS 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 updates and have no problem with Rockbox on those devices.  CM's push now seems to be towards Jellybean so...

I'm going to give an early build of CM10 a try and see if the problem is still present.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: a_b_c_d on July 26, 2012, 05:40:12 PM
I'm going to give an early build of CM10 a try and see if the problem is still present.

That would be great.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: acrox999 on July 31, 2012, 11:49:59 AM
Hey Rasher, thanks for maintaining this build bot, really appreciate it.

But I have a question, can we use the sncviewer or lrcplayer plugins on RaaA? If it's possible, I'd set up my development environment as soon as I can and build the plugin.

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: evilnick on August 01, 2012, 02:48:06 PM
Quote
It should work with wired remotes. Bluetooth remote headsets are a different matter, and I don't know how to support them (IIUC you need per-device code).

I tested Rasher's build from 27th July 2012 (9dd2eb4 - if I can read the tiny font) and the wired headset buttons weren't working on my SGS3 running CM10.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: a_b_c_d on August 02, 2012, 08:23:53 AM
My bug doesn't appear with Cyanogenmod 7 (Android 2.3.7).

There is a major bug using CM9/CM10 in combination with rockbox on the Motorola Defy+!
It seems related to the lockscreen.

Furthermore rockbox doesn't work properly on the official Motorola Defy+ software.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on August 04, 2012, 10:07:14 AM
Actually the problem seems to be Android 4.0.4 and above.  On two 4.0.4 devices (Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7 and Motorola RAZR Maxx) and the lockscreen set to "none", the problem appears after a few presses in succession of the power button to close the screen.

UPDATE: My mistake (I guess) the problem seems to have gone away on the Motorola.  Using my own 540x960 theme.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: LambdaCalculus on August 09, 2012, 10:58:57 AM
Running version 9d632bc-120809 on my LG Optimus 2X and my Nook Color; both run CM 7.2.0.

No issues at all, although the Nook Color sorely needs a CabbieV2 port for its 600x1024 screen. :)
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on August 14, 2012, 04:16:19 PM
My bug doesn't appear with Cyanogenmod 7 (Android 2.3.7).

There is a major bug using CM9/CM10 in combination with rockbox on the Motorola Defy+!
It seems related to the lockscreen.

Furthermore rockbox doesn't work properly on the official Motorola Defy+ software.

Try CM9 or CM10 again.  I discovered that if I set to allow the volume up/down buttons to wake the device (Settings->Display) the WPS screen will return.  While the power button does not wake the device with Rockbox running, the volume buttons can.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: davidsol on September 06, 2012, 05:06:36 AM
Hi, I installed a Rasher build a few months ago on a Galaxy Note using Gingerbread and it worked pretty well other than bookmarks but a few weeks ago it stopped working. When I load it now, tapping on any options doesn't work and I can't use it. I have tried going back to earlier builds but that doesn't work. It's installed on the external SD card and I haven't upgraded to ICS or Jellybean. Maybe if I install it on the phone that might help.

Any ideas ? I'm not very technical but I had RB on an Iriver for years and it's brilliant.

Thanks in advance for anyone's help.

David
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: LambdaCalculus on September 06, 2012, 07:52:44 AM
Maybe if I install it on the phone that might help.

Yes, you need to keep Rockbox on the internal storage of your Android device, and not on the external storage. AFAIK the widgets don't play nice when moved to external storage. Rockbox itself doesn't like being moved either.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: davidsol on September 06, 2012, 08:48:25 AM
Thanks Lambada, I tried that but still have the same problem. I uninstalled then re-installed on the phone, no luck !
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Stringrazor on October 08, 2012, 01:14:44 PM
Just installed 71778bd-121008 720x1280 on my Galaxy Nexus and it's working well so far. I'll give it a try on my GalaxyTab 7.2 asap.  Thanks for the all the great work!
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: sunami88 on October 13, 2012, 12:15:48 PM
I've been having a problem with Rockbox that is still present in the latest build (2012-10-12 13:12 CEST    be6da12-121012) on my LG p500 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_P500) (320x480) running CM10 (JB 4.1.1) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?s=62fa11bcbec1196ae52922bd1f3e727e&t=1811325). Seems whenever I build the database it causes Rockbox to crash when I try to play a file, either through the file viewer or the database viewer. When I delete all database related files in /sdcard/rockbox/, playback works again.


I get
Code: [Select]
*PANIC*
Stkov audio
pc:5133e6f0 sp:5142e7dc
      A:  5133f030
bt end

I'm trying to play the audio over bluetooth if that matters. Also my version of Android is anything but official so that may be a factor. It's a big pain, I'd like to have auto resume in my Podcast folder.

Even being at this early a stage, it's great to see Rockbox in Android! Good work.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Njones on December 03, 2012, 09:35:23 PM
I just bought a Google Nexus 7 32gb tablet. Would like to rockbox it. Which size would I download and where do I put it on the tablet to install it. I have found no option to accept 3rd party apps.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: gevaerts on December 04, 2012, 08:40:46 AM
I have found no option to accept 3rd party apps.

Settings -> Security -> Unknown sources
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: LambdaCalculus on December 04, 2012, 10:06:57 AM
Which size would I download

For the Nexus 7, 1280x800.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Njones on December 04, 2012, 08:37:33 PM
I set it to accept unknown sources. I dragged the 1280x800 apk. file to the nexus. How do I get it to install? Should i drag it to any special folder on the Nexus?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: LambdaCalculus on December 05, 2012, 10:14:21 AM
Copy it to any folder you wish, then open it through a file manager. You'll be asked if you want to install the app; do so. That's all! :)
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Njones on December 05, 2012, 05:52:17 PM
It would not show up on the nexus until I used the nexus to download the latest build. Dragging and dropping from my pc did not work. Installed Rockbox playback is fine. Font is very small and no theme appears or album art? Is this normal for the 1280x800?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Njones on December 05, 2012, 05:55:57 PM
I see on the rashers daily build page that there is no theme available in this size.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: LambdaCalculus on December 14, 2012, 11:35:32 AM
Thus far, I haven't seen any WPSes for larger screen sizes on Android tablets. I managed to cobble together a very crude (read: slapped a backdrop and album art only) WPS for my Nook Color's 600x1024 screen, but I'll be getting a Nexus 7 soon, and I have so far seen zero WPS projects for its 800x1280 (or 1280x800, your choice!) screen.

With the various Android screen sizes out there, more WPS projects are badly needed!
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: gevaerts on December 14, 2012, 12:52:54 PM
I have so far seen zero WPS projects for its 800x1280 (or 1280x800, your choice!) screen.

Possibly. There are some 720x1280 themes around though, which should work reasonably well on 800x1280
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: LambdaCalculus on December 18, 2012, 09:04:36 AM
Yes, I did see one that AlexP is working on, and I have no qualms about losing 40 pixels on each veritcal edge if it means I have a nice looking skin on my N7. :)
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on December 25, 2012, 02:37:19 PM
You may find a repository of very unofficial, simple, rough Android themes here in various pixel heights and widths:

http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69076 (http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69076)

All credit to [Saint].  I just modified his work.

Does anyone have a recent 800x1280 android build to share?

Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on December 25, 2012, 09:14:33 PM
It's a little anal, but, you misspelled my name. ;)

Also, thanks for picking this work up, I haven't had time to do so for what seems like an age. It is certainly my intention to do so, but I have had to put aside a few projects in favour of real life and my health lately. I quite like what you've done with the placement of some elements in the much larger resolutions.

Nice work.


[Saint]
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on December 27, 2012, 09:02:02 AM
My apologies, the error has been corrected!

The work was pretty quick and dirty and just done to work out the coordinates for the x,y placement of elements.  Later, I hope to improve on these themes.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on January 17, 2013, 11:35:31 AM
It is noticed that there have been no builds since December 29, 2012.  Any problems?

An 800x1280 build would be very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Timar on January 19, 2013, 07:32:18 AM
Thanks a lot for those builds. It's great to have my beloved Rockbox running on Android!  :)

Just one question, probably I'm too stupid to figure it out but how can I change the font color for the notification area entry? It's a dark-grey font on a dark-grey background on my device and kind of hard to read...
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on January 19, 2013, 08:17:26 AM
Just one question...<snip>...how can I change the font color for the notification area entry?

I'm going to go ahead and assume you're not able to compile your own builds (based on the fact that you're using someone elses pre-compiled binaries), and based on that assumption the answer in short is, "you can't".


[Saint]
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Timar on January 19, 2013, 10:10:22 AM
I'm going to go ahead and assume you're not able to compile your own builds (based on the fact that you're using someone elses pre-compiled binaries), and based on that assumption the answer in short is, "you can't".

Well, I've compiled builds für Sansa devices, but I guess it's a bit more complicated for Android!? Can you tell me which file holds the settings?

Maybe I could even help to implement some menu setting for this. In its current state the font color renders a great feature pretty much useless for the majority of all Android users (I guess the background is dark on most devices).
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Timar on January 24, 2013, 01:15:35 PM
It may or may not be of interest for the port developers that on my device (ARMv9 - Samsung I9100), rockbox frequently crashes (playback continues but the interface stops to react) on Android 4.0.4 but runs perfectly smooth on Android 4.1.2.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Falco98 on February 01, 2013, 04:34:30 PM
Rasher's builds haven't updated in over a month - anyone know what's up?

edited to add: sorry for duplicating a question posted by someone within the last 5 or so posts.. oops :(
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: dfkt on February 06, 2013, 07:39:17 PM
It may or may not be of interest for the port developers that on my device (ARMv9 - Samsung I9100), rockbox frequently crashes (playback continues but the interface stops to react) on Android 4.0.4 but runs perfectly smooth on Android 4.1.2.

Similar - or even worse - here, on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 running CM10 (4.1.2). When the screen turns off while Rockbox is the visible app, the screen can't be turned on anymore, the tablet has to be rebooted. Same happened on CM9 (4.0.x) too.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on February 11, 2013, 11:59:35 PM
dkft,

The problem you describe has been a problem since CM9 (or maybe before).  Look in CM10 display settings and check the "volume wakes screen" or something like that.  Then the volume control can then wake the device.

I'm not convinced that it's a Rockbox problem (not yet anyway).  I have *never* seen the problem with a commercial, stock Android build whether it be GB, HC or ICS.  I have only seen it with CM and it happens with CM on various devices: Samsung Epic 4G Touch (SGSII), Samsung Exhilarate (i577), Samsung Captivate (SGS).  Maybe it's a Samsung problem.

Even on devices with stock, nearly unskinned Android ICS such as the Toshiba Excite 7.7 or the Lenovo Thinkpad there is no problem.

On the other hand, I've never seen the problem with other media players on CM9 or CM10.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Falco98 on February 21, 2013, 05:41:58 PM
My TB recently got the newest OS upgrade (now running 4.0.4).
Rockbox ran fine for several minutes, despite turning the screen on/off, going to the home screen and back, etc.  Then playback stopped, and I had the following error screen.  I can now exit RB, kill the process, reset my phone and/or install the app again, and any time I try to resume playback I instantly get essentially the same error:

Code: [Select]
*PANIC*
Stkov audio
pc:###### sp:#####
 A: #####
bt end

I haven't tried removing / reinstalling fully yet, but will try if anyone thinks it'll actually do any good.  I kinda expected a full restart of the phone to do the trick at least temporarily, but no dice.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Mr Whippy on March 06, 2013, 07:59:18 AM
wow. amazing.  Just installing on galaxy ace GT-5830i. Just a couple of small things

Set default location of file view. At the bottom it says "start file browser at" then click that says cleared. Setting to sdcard\media would be good.

There is a tiny bit of over scanning going on on the top edge, probably one or two pixels. I've used the correct resolution build
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on March 06, 2013, 08:57:05 AM
You are thinking of:
Settings - General Settings - File View - Start File Browser at /

Which as you've found, sets the starting location of the File Browser to /.

That menu entry exists solely to revert the starting location of the File Browser to the default, which is /, a legacy of the fact that Rockbox typically runs on devices that make use of the entire disk. The fact that it isn't /sdcard or /storage0 for RaaA on Android is perhaps an issue, but...not really, keep reading.

What you *want* is:
Files - <Navigate to desired starting location of File Browser> - <bring up context menu on desired selection> - Start File Browser Here

This allows you to set the starting location of the File Browser to any location your heart may desire, provided the path actually exists.


[Saint]
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Mr Whippy on March 10, 2013, 12:40:08 PM
installed 800x480 build on samsung player 4.2, and it's in the incorrect rotation- it's in landscape mode (tried the built in rotation and made no difference) Bug? Or can I rotate it within Rockbox itself?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: bluebrother on March 10, 2013, 02:17:21 PM
installed 800x480 build on samsung player 4.2, and it's in the incorrect rotation- it's in landscape mode (tried the built in rotation and made no difference) Bug? Or can I rotate it within Rockbox itself?

800x480 is a landscape format. If you want portrait you need to use 480x800.

Rockbox cannot rotate the display. It can flip it, but that's something different. It's definitely not a Rockbox bug. You can call this a user bug if you like :)
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: mr.pi on March 15, 2013, 04:08:57 AM
Hello rasher,

i have a motorola defy (android 2.3) an run rockbox 3a1ba75 in 480x800. Now I downloaded the new rockbox 9e7bd64-130315 and tried to install it. But the system gave me the error "application not installed". Up to now the installation was every time without problems. What went wrong and what are the different version mips and x76 for?

thx for reply

the pi
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: gevaerts on March 15, 2013, 04:53:15 AM
Hello rasher,

i have a motorola defy (android 2.3) an run rockbox 3a1ba75 in 480x800. Now I downloaded the new rockbox 9e7bd64-130315 and tried to install it. But the system gave me the error "application not installed". Up to now the installation was every time without problems.

Did you uninstall the previous build first? The builds are now done on a different system, so I imagine that maybe the signing key changed.

Quote
What went wrong and what are the different version mips and x76 for?

They are for MIPS and x86 based systems
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: florin on March 18, 2013, 07:52:38 AM
My TB recently got the newest OS upgrade (now running 4.0.4).
Rockbox ran fine for several minutes, despite turning the screen on/off, going to the home screen and back, etc.  Then playback stopped, and I had the following error screen.  I can now exit RB, kill the process, reset my phone and/or install the app again, and any time I try to resume playback I instantly get essentially the same error:

Code: [Select]
*PANIC*
Stkov audio
pc:###### sp:#####
 A: #####
bt end

I haven't tried removing / reinstalling fully yet, but will try if anyone thinks it'll actually do any good.  I kinda expected a full restart of the phone to do the trick at least temporarily, but no dice.

Do you have "Gather Runtime Data" enabled by any chance? I get a similar error when I set this option to Yes. And database update seems to be broken - every time I start Rockbox it adds the same entries to the DB - if I started RB 3 times since install I'll have 3 "Hell's Bells" under AC/DC.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Philip on March 29, 2013, 04:22:57 AM
Hi Rasher,

Loved your builds on my old phone but my new one is 1080x1920.

Any chance you could add this resolution to your builds :D

Thanks,

Philip

Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Falco98 on April 03, 2013, 03:47:46 PM
Do you have "Gather Runtime Data" enabled by any chance? I get a similar error when I set this option to Yes. And database update seems to be broken - every time I start Rockbox it adds the same entries to the DB - if I started RB 3 times since install I'll have 3 "Hell's Bells" under AC/DC.

I figured I'd be able to just fish through and find this setting, but apparently I was wrong. Any hints?  ;D
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: evilnick on April 04, 2013, 06:56:19 AM
http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-440004.2 (http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-440004.2) shows the option, but since I never use the Database I don't know exactly how to bring up the Database Menu, on Android or otherwise!

It's likely  to be something along the lines of: Select Database, press Menu.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: florin on April 04, 2013, 06:58:24 AM
Settings - General Settings - Database => Gather Runtime Data

But I think it's disabled by default so maybe it's another issue in your case.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Philip on April 09, 2013, 10:44:51 AM
Thanks for adding a 1920 x 1080 option ;D. Can I make a further request for a portrait version? 1080 wide and 1920 high.

I'll have to start making a theme.

Are there any fonts bigger than the size 50 ones in the anti aliased font pack?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: weeblies on May 02, 2013, 09:33:57 AM
Request 1: please can there be a Galaxy Note 800x1280 version. On this ICS device, 720x*** version does not appear properly. Only the 480x800 version appears well, though of course too small. But for  display size, this 480x800 version works well on Galaxy Note & on Galaxy Player 4.2 (android 3.6).

Request 2: on both devices the Android status bar is not visible - & it should be if possible - this is exacerbated by the too tiny & unnecessary (?) Rockbox/Cubby status bar. Can this be rectified?

Request 3: the Rockbox "Line" widget is great on the Galaxy Note, but on the Galaxy Player the "song titles" text is taller & doesn't quiet fit - slightly smaller height & narrow font would improve greatly.       

Feedback: I set up devices (& lock down un-required access where possible) for non-techies using Database only. On these Galaxy devices, both Android Rockbox database & the "Rockbox Line" widget work superbly - almost as well as the more developed Sansa Clip Zip. Feedback from such users is intense operational dislike of "flashier" players like samsung stock & google compared to operating  Android Rockbox. However, it's too easy to alter settings inadvertently on the Android version - & some "instabilities" noted may be for this reason.
Thank you for your excellent work.
   
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: thebalance on June 01, 2013, 04:02:44 PM
I've installed your 1280x800 apk on my Nexus 7 and 320x480 on my Samsung Galaxy Ace. Bit of a relief really as I've been looking for a decent mp3 player on my android devices having been using rockbox on my mp3 player for ages.

On my Samsung phone it displays perfectly from the word go but I had to add cabbie_v2_android_12800x800 to make the display visible on the nexus.

Works nicely, however, one flaw...I don't seem to be able to get auto bookmarking to work - I've set it to bookmark on stop and update on stop and combinations and for some reason the automatic version just doesn't do anything - I can manually create one but that's not a nice easy shortcut, can anyone tell me if I am supposed to set something else to make bookmarking work please?

thanks

Chris
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on June 02, 2013, 06:51:59 AM
I would like to request a 1920x1280 and a 1280x1920 build.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: weeblies on June 07, 2013, 07:17:04 AM
Please can there be a Galaxy Note 800x1280 version.
There are millions of Galaxy Notes at large!
On both ICS & Jelly Bean, only the 480x800 version works properly on the Galaxy Note (720x*** version does not).
In fact the 480x800 version works & appears superbly as it is (incl database).
The only need for 800x1280 version is not to enlarge text (this is just right on the 480x800 version)) but simply to see more tracks on the greater screen area. Thank you for your excellent work.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: LambdaCalculus on June 13, 2013, 06:14:10 PM
There is a 1280x800 version that you can use as well. I'm using that version on my Nexus 7.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: LambdaCalculus on July 22, 2013, 11:14:10 PM
Just got a Nexus 4, which has a 768x1280 LCD. For now I can use the 720x1280 build, but native resolution builds should be added to the list.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: yapper on October 24, 2013, 10:16:09 PM
Any chance of a 480 x 640 build?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TP Diffenbach on November 08, 2013, 12:06:02 AM
Which of rasher's builds do i want to use on a Samsung Galaxy Note 3?
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: LambdaCalculus on November 18, 2013, 11:22:59 AM
The Note 3 has a 1920x1080 screen, so get that build.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on November 18, 2013, 02:16:50 PM
As the number of screen pixels seem to be increasing rapidly (2560x1600 at this point), I have a question:

Would it make sense to only have two large pixel (4000x4000) Android Rockbox builds, one landscape and one portrait?  Then, the user could create or install a theme that matches the screen orientation and pixels whether it be 800x480 or 2560x1600.

Perhaps the rest of the builds would be rendered unnecessary.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: LambdaCalculus on November 19, 2013, 07:26:30 PM
I think one of the big overall goals was to create a display-independent build for Android, which also features an Android-esque UI, that can then be distributed in the Play Store.

I haven't been on IRC in some time, though, so I'm a bit at a loss as to what's been going on with that as of late.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: h.finn on January 10, 2014, 11:02:34 AM
Thank you very much Rasher!
I'm enjoying now rockbox on my rooted old samsung galaxy i7500 as I was on my ipod 5th gen video and mini!!
 ;)
Just one question: why do you publish daily builds?
Is it necessary to do it so often??

Thanks anyway for the excellent work!!!
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: acrox999 on March 13, 2014, 12:47:26 PM
It seems that no builds since the 11th of March worked. The last working build was on the 1st March. Does anyone have a copy of that build? I lost mine since my SD card corrupted and lost most of my files. I'd use another players as an alternative but since I have all of my music in Opus codec, none other than Rockbox is able to play them.

I'd be glad if anyone can help me here.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: vinnie97 on April 24, 2014, 12:49:53 PM
I was silly enough to upgrade to the latest only to find myself in the same situation as acrox999.  I would love a link to the last known working build if anyone has it.  TIA.

PS.  I'm using a Samsung Galaxy 3 (with Android 4.3 installed).
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: vinnie97 on April 25, 2014, 04:04:52 PM
Internet Archive to the rescue.  You can grab the 2-26 builds (though there is still some bugginess) here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20140227030816/http://rasher.dk/rockbox/android/
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on July 02, 2014, 04:05:35 PM
Builds have resumed!

Is it possible to have 2550x1600 and 1600x2550 builds added to the selection?  (New Galaxy Tab S)
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on July 02, 2014, 04:53:28 PM
Rather than hanging off the assumption that these (third party) builds are going to be around for ever, and hoping a new resolution will be added to match the newest device or your own obscure flavor (not saying it won't happen), it might pay to have a look at learning to build Rockbox from source.

It really is trivial to set up, and we can walk you through it, should you desire.

Edited to add: I should probably note that rasher hasn't been in control of these builds for some time, this thread is running off the courtesy of TheSeven. So, thanks, TheSeven.


[Saint]
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on July 03, 2014, 11:43:33 AM
Thank you.  That I didn't know.  I was going by the original post.  I was thinking of setting up an Android build environment and now I have reason to do so.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: Falco98 on July 14, 2014, 01:14:42 PM
Builds have resumed!

Is it possible to have 2550x1600 and 1600x2550 builds added to the selection?  (New Galaxy Tab S)
Hey TRB - I've been watching your modified themes over on that old AnythingButIpod thread and a few people were wondering whether you might ever make a 1080x1920 version of the theme?  By any chance?  It would probably help me out a bit on my GalaxyS4 ;-)
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: AidanSonoda on September 18, 2014, 07:02:18 PM
Rather than hanging off the assumption … third party builds … hoping a new resolution will be added … it might pay to have a look at learning to build Rockbox from source.

It really is trivial to set up, and we can walk you through it, should you desire.
[Saint]

Quite late to the party here - please forgive. Am I understanding correctly that if I build from source I won't need a theme to get a useable interface on, say, a 1080x1920 device? If so (and the result is something as useable on 1080x1920 as rasher's builds were on 720x1280) I'd love to take you up on the offer of walking me through it.

I'm familiar with simple compilation of source packages in linux, but have no experience setting up for android, cross-compilation in general or anything at all fancy. Things like "debug signature for signing the apk" in the instructions on the Android Port Page (http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AndroidPort) are a bit confusing for me. I'm also clueless about what would need to be included to get, say, working play/pause, skip buttons.

If you think you could coach up someone as useless as I … the effort would certainly be appreciated.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on September 21, 2014, 06:56:25 PM
Compiling the build isn't going to fix your issue, at least not solely.

The reason you don't have a theme is that no such theme exists for your target resolution.
You will have to create one, hope someone else does, or hope that I find that time and motivation to finish my long winded efforts on making a resolution agnostic theme for Rockbox.

It is worth noting that the user interface in the fallback theme on touch devices does indeed have functional media control, it is just that the touch screen is split into a 3x3 grid mode (as opposed to absolute point) and there are no obvious points of reference.

Once upon a time, not so long ago, Rockbox on Android had the ability to load a binary with a target resolution smaller than that of the intended host. This is no longer the case. The binary must be compiled for _exactly_ the same resolution as the host framebuffer. Prior to this, it was possible to load a binary for a target with a smaller resolution than the host framebuffer and have a somewhat usable UI.

I can certainly assist you with compiling Rockbox for your device, but it is of absolute importance that you understand that for your issue this is only half the battle, and that doing so alone will not provide you with a functioning (or, any) absolute point touch screen user interface. You would need to create a theme yourself to suit the target device and your own preferences.

We do have a great deal of documentation and various skilled individuals capable of assisting you with this, also.


[Saint]
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: AidanSonoda on September 22, 2014, 05:30:32 PM
It is worth noting that the user interface in the fallback theme on touch devices does indeed have functional media control, it is just that the touch screen is split into a 3x3 grid mode (as opposed to absolute point) and there are no obvious points of reference.
[Saint]

Ah, that clears up a bit of confusion for me. Inexplicable behavior - I must have been tapping in these "zones". I've gone back and it seems I can get a mostly working implementation with the default theme and just a large font to make the menus big enough to read/tap. Thanks for that, puts me ahead of where I was!

Once upon a time, not so long ago, Rockbox on Android had the ability to load a binary with a target resolution smaller than that of the intended host. This is no longer the case. The binary must be compiled for _exactly_ the same resolution as the host framebuffer. Prior to this, it was possible to load a binary for a target with a smaller resolution than the host framebuffer and have a somewhat usable UI.
[Saint]

That makes sense. I'd encountered various notes on the internet with references to using a lower res version working but could never replicate this with rasher's builds.

http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS seems to have some (perhaps most) of the information I need to make my own theme. Perhaps I'll let some yardwork slide this weekend and have a crack at rolling my own simple theme.

Thanks for all the info.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: AidanSonoda on September 23, 2014, 10:40:10 PM
It is worth noting that the user interface in the fallback theme on touch devices does indeed have functional media control, it is just that the touch screen is split into a 3x3 grid mode (as opposed to absolute point) and there are no obvious points of reference.
[Saint]

I've hobbled together a custom WPS that works on Rasher's build. But there still seems to be some leftover effects of that default 3x3 mapping you mentioned. If you can see the screenshot, the three buttons work normally, but tapping in the upper right (near/on "charging") causes a forward skip and tapping near "volume" (upper left) produces a seek back on the current track.

Not sure about the other zones, the only ones I had figured out were up down (middle top & bottom) which wouldn't do anything on the wps anyway. The middle left/right zones seem to have been taken over by my own working buttons.

Perhaps I should not have put all my text items in the default viewport? Could that cause this? The only declared viewports my wps has are for the buttons …

Anyhow, I appreciate your starting me down this path - has definitely increased my appreciation for rockbox in general. Do still wonder if I'm actually smart enough to hammer out all the kinks, but that isn't your fault!
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: ZincAlloy on September 26, 2014, 10:26:22 AM

Perhaps I should not have put all my text items in the default viewport? Could that cause this? The only declared viewports my wps has are for the buttons …


I'm not sure. If it is caused by this, the fix is quite simple: Introduce a viewport for the text area.

If that doesn't help you could paste your wps code here (or better yet: open a thread in the wps section of the forum and post it there) so we can have a look at it.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: stkelly52 on September 29, 2014, 07:58:56 AM
I am wondering if anyone can help me out.  I am trying to figure out how to set bookmarks and for the life of me I can't figure anything out.  I have autobookmarking turned on, but that doesn't seem to do anything, and I can't figure out how to do manual bookmarking.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on September 29, 2014, 09:12:26 PM
I am wondering if anyone can help me out.  I am trying to figure out how to set bookmarks and for the life of me I can't figure anything out.

Our fine manual can...

But, as you may be aware, due to the target status of Rockbox for Android ("unusable") we don't provide a user manual. However, for most use cases, one is able to use the manual for another touch based Rockbox target, the Cowon D2 (http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-cowond2.pdf).

The applicable sections therein are:

5.3 Recent Bookmarks
8.7 Bookmarking

...actually, just hit Ctrl+F and search for "bookmark" in the .PDF, go nuts.


[Saint]
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: RowaN on October 17, 2014, 08:09:00 AM
I've hobbled together a custom WPS that works on Rasher's build.

How did you get Rockbox to load the theme? I was under the impression that it was not possible to load themes until the following patch gets committed:
http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/1004/

I am eager to make a theme myself. :)
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: ZincAlloy on October 17, 2014, 10:55:58 AM
You simply put files into the "rockbox" folder instead of ".rockbox".  :)
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: steak on November 05, 2014, 07:58:31 AM
I will be hosting, until a time when official daily builds become available, builds of Rockbox for Android, updated daily. I'll not be updating this thread unless something dramatically changes.

The builds will be unmodified from SVN, as with my simulator builds.

Find them on http://rasher.dk/rockbox/android/

I'll add resolutions if requested (but keep in mind the lack of default themes).
I've been given a Motorola Defy MB525 with 480x854 resolution. I had it previously and mistakenly remembered that it ran rockbox. Could this resolution be added to the list so I can try a build ?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: steak on November 05, 2014, 08:07:13 AM
Hello rockbox folks,

i used rockbox on my gigabeat an now i own an motorola defy. i tried the rasher build and everthing seems fine. but where can i find the widget. if i try to add a widget nothing no rockbox stuff is in the lists.
thx for help

best regards the pi ???
Judging by this, if it relates to the first Motorola Defy, maybe I remembered well... But then what resolution should be used ? I think it failed with 480x800. I "think" because actually I would like to confirm but I cannot put my hand on the damn thing. (Don't tell me to call its number, it has none as I planned to use only as a music player)
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: steak on November 05, 2014, 09:53:41 AM
Once upon a time, not so long ago, Rockbox on Android had the ability to load a binary with a target resolution smaller than that of the intended host.
Does that mean that installing a build dating back to that time would make Rockbox usable on a target which has no recent build matching its exact resolution ? As I mentioned just above I kind of remember having used a Motorola Defy (480x854) with rasher's build (480x800 ?) but with my second Defy and the latest builds it does not work.

On a dev's point of view it is probably best to keep up with the latest builds, on my user's point of view I would stick to a release but since there is none, I'd be happy with any specific build that works for good. My best android target so far has been a Galaxy S1 which worked just as good as my Sansa Clips. The much larger screen allowed me to change the WPS and display all tags suited to my needs. As I'm getting older this large screen becomes essential for me to be able to use any player.

I have a Galaxy S2 that handles rockbox for a while but freezes after random time : the music goes on if the playlist has not reach its end but it's impossible to call the app back on screen. At this point I have to force stop it through Settings/application manager/. I have no time or money to spend testing targets until I find one that works like my previous target. I have no time or skills the skills to fix whatever is going wrong. I have looked at the steps, they are just too far for me.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on November 05, 2014, 08:43:35 PM
If one wants to run Rockbox on their device that badly, they should likely investigate building from source.

It really isn't difficult.

I don't say that meaning "its not difficult, for me, because I have the necessary skills in order to be able to do so", I say it in a completely literal sense. Compiling Rockbox for Android really isn't difficult at all.

If this is a thing you'd actually be interested in, I could write up a full walk through for compiling Android on a modern distribution using the latest Android SDK and NDK iterations, but I won't do so until I am convinced that there is a need for such a thing because its a reasonable undertaking on my behalf and I'm understandably unwilling to do so if there isn't any obvious demand for such a thing.


[Saint]
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: steak on November 06, 2014, 01:11:09 PM
If one wants to run Rockbox on their device that badly, they should likely investigate building from source.

It really isn't difficult.

I don't say that meaning "its not difficult, for me, because I have the necessary skills in order to be able to do so", I say it in a completely literal sense. Compiling Rockbox for Android really isn't difficult at all.

If this is a thing you'd actually be interested in, I could write up a full walk through for compiling Android on a modern distribution using the latest Android SDK and NDK iterations, but I won't do so until I am convinced that there is a need for such a thing because its a reasonable undertaking on my behalf and I'm understandably unwilling to do so if there isn't any obvious demand for such a thing.
[Saint]
Considering what I wrote elsewhere I repeat, I'd be an idiot to say no. So YES I am actually interested to learn to build from source. At this point I havve to forget everything I tried to understand about compiling and rely on your words. So ok it's easy in a literal sense, and that means I can do it.

Yes means YES literally.

Let me get rid of the "buts" : I am not sure of anything below but these things are part of what prevented me from trying to find out how to compile

> I believe I will need to have Linux installed on my computer. I have always been willing to install it but never did. I actually did to attempts where friends who had the skills tried and failed. I mean they did install it but I could not use it properly. With one version the buttons to click in different softwares were impossible to get on screen, with the other I cannot remember. My friends were not able to fix it. I also remember one trying to explain how he would leave allow double boot on my computer. (I do need Windows for softwares I use in common wiith friends, family, etc..)

> I understand what you mean by
>> Rockbox is compatible with any Android hardware that has a screen .../...
> I understand
>> .../... and a minimum API level of 8 (= Android 2.2 & above)

> I have a doubt : how useful will that be ? Let me explain... Rockbox was 100% usable on my Samsung Galaxy S1. It did not freeze, it did not crash, it worked as good as on my Sansa Clip+, Clip zip or Cowon D2.
Now I have a Galaxy S2. The secreen resolution is the same so I am able to use the same build on it but it freezes after random time. (the app is still running but cannot be called back on screen and controlled, stopped)
In my mind having Rockbox on a "mp3 player port" can't compare with an Android device : the mp3 player is a single target, the Android device is a generic target with 100s versions : different brands, different models, differents android versions...!!
I don't think compiling a build will stop the Galaxy S2 freezing. I guess the problem can come from the Rockbox app or the hardware or the Android version or a combination of all ?

If my compilation version for a device  is a 100% usable, fine, if not, I'll be left looking for another device again ?

NEVER MIND THOUGH, MY COMPILED BUILDS WILL HELP OTHERS, I WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO USE THEM FOR TESTING PURPOSES.

> Is it just the build I will need or also the Theme. I have been able to write my own themes but only based on pre-existing ones.
EDIT : in fact...
Compiling the build isn't going to fix your issue, at least not solely
The reason you don't have a theme is that no such theme exists for your target resolution.
You will have to create one, hope someone else does, or hope that I find that time and motivation to finish my long winded efforts on making a resolution agnostic theme for Rockbox.
> Does that mean one Theme needs to be created for each target resolution ?
> What does "resolution agnostic theme" mean ? A theme that would work on all target resolution ?

FINALLY YES I'm interested and if I find it literally as simple as you, it won't take long to achieve, if not well, I'll do my best but will have to consider how much time I can devote to going further !! You must not think that the time it will take (if any) for me to follow your instructions means you will have made a reasonnable undertaking for someone who does not do his best to use it.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: steak on November 07, 2014, 04:58:03 AM
Combining this
Internet Archive to the rescue.  You can grab the 2-26 builds (though there is still some bugginess) here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140227030816/http://rasher.dk/rockbox/android/
and that
Once upon a time, not so long ago, Rockbox on Android had the ability to load a binary with a target resolution smaller than that of the intended host.
I managed to download an old build that works on Motorola Defy MB525 android target. In a few days of usage, I'll be able to confirm what I think I remember i.e. it should be pretty usable (not freeze, etc...)
EDIT:  Damn it !! Rockbox just froze after less than 5mn playing time !! Then it came back for a few seconds, then froze, etc.. really weird and not like anything I encountered before. Looks like I am going to have to investigate, try more builds and so on. Hopefully it will work. I'll update this.

IF it works eventually,  That means could mean...:
If one wants to run Rockbox on their device that badly, they should likely investigate building from source.
It really isn't difficult.
I don't say that meaning "its not difficult, for me, because I have the necessary skills in order to be able to do so", I say it in a completely literal sense. Compiling Rockbox for Android really isn't difficult at all.
I'm still willing to be convinced AND I'd be compiling not just for me but for friends willing to try Rockbox on a target with no build available... if the Theme is not a problem though !!

If this is a thing you'd actually be interested in, I could write up a full walk through for compiling Android on a modern distribution using the latest Android SDK and NDK iterations, but I won't do so until I am convinced that there is a need for such a thing because its a reasonable undertaking on my behalf and I'm understandably unwilling to do so if there isn't any obvious demand for such a thing.
Given your/my work/private commitments, and the fact that the problem is probably sorted for now, it's up to you  to see if and when you would write this full walk through. (If you do it, once again & a last time, remember I will try it)

Whatever you decide, thanks a lot for suggesting it !
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: steak on November 14, 2014, 06:30:10 PM
Good news :
1- Rockbox build d475dd3-130622 (2013-0622) on Motorola Defy MB525 + Android 2.2.2 is VERY USABLE at last : I've been using it for a couple of days while travelling with no crash, black screen or any problem.

My only problem is to access internal memory of the phone so I can change the WPS. Not a big problem, just a bit of hassle.

2- Rockbox build bb5341c-141107 on Samsung Galaxy S2 GT-I9100 + Android 4.1.2 is USABLE too : I've been using it randomly without the black screen bug. I still need to use it on a regular basis for a few days before I'm sure but it sounds good. There again I still have to adapt the WPS to my taste. Good news is it's much access to the WPS file with that phone so I'll be editing/testing my version on it and then it should work on the other phone (they share the same screen resolution build)
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: TexasRockbox on December 11, 2014, 09:06:57 PM
Hello. Does anyone have Rockbox for Android (any build) working on any Android 5.0 "Lollipop" build (official or unofficial)?  I see the Rockbox logo for a moment as it loads then it just crashes.  I am using a Galaxy Note 3 with a build of CM12.  Kitkat (4.4.x) changed the permissions for how writing is done to the internal/external memory.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on December 13, 2014, 11:50:41 PM
Not presently.

I have it booting in 4.4.4 w/ ART, but 4.4.4 ART and 5.0.x ART are quite different beasts. I haven't been terribly motivated to look into what's tripping it up yet.


[Saint]
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: erolk7 on December 22, 2014, 10:39:21 PM
Trying to run the latest on Samsung S5 (1080x1920) and I'm having no luck.  I believe I cleaned up everything from previous installations and I still get the small fonts.  Does anybody know of a theme that will work for this resolution.  I love rockbox and miss it on my new S5.   Any help is appreciated.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: ForteD on January 02, 2015, 04:49:46 AM
Hi, I was try to install rockbox on my google nexus 7 2013, but can't open it when installed, it's freeze all the time. I was try 1920x1080, 1080x1920, 480x800, still can't run rockbox :(. I try to install it on my phone, it run perfecly :(
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: LambdaCalculus on February 20, 2015, 09:32:02 AM
What version of Android is your Nexus 7 running? Please note that Android 5.0 and any derivatives of it won't run Rockbox currently; Rockbox doesn't support the ART runtime in these newer versions of Android.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: JLHack7 on August 27, 2015, 02:08:01 PM
On my UMX MaxPatriot Tracfone there's android 4.1.2, and there's a weird clicking in the background when I play audio that is identical to the clicking in the rockbox iPod Classic 6G builds.

The specs for the phone are here: http://tracfonereviewer.blogspot.com/2015/01/unimax-maxpatriot-tracfone-review.html

I've been using PowerAMP because I prefer the equalizer's smoothing algorithm, which makes 5 dollar Koss earbuds with 16 Ohms of resistance and 10 mm drivers sound like 32 Ohms with 11 mm drivers on my Sanza Clip+.

I'd like to be able to get that smoothing in Rockbox if possible as well.

Edit: Wow, I'm such a noob at this.

PowerAmp's equalizer sounds good because of the high Q value done with a power of 2 increase in the equalizer bands, which sounds really good. Derp.

Managed to get an excellent sound by setting the Q values of the bands at 2.0-2.5.

Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: X86 on November 13, 2015, 10:39:15 PM
Hi, rockbox runs on android with ART, at least for me. I'm running kitkat 4.4.2, no problems at all, installs and then runs flawlessly. My phone if you want to know is an Alcatel Pixi 3(4), 4 inches 840 by 480 screen.

The problem with ART is that it precompiles the files and opposed to Dalvik, there is one vm for all the apps, not like Dalvik, individual vm's for each app, thats the conflict here. Also some apps won't like to be precompiled.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on November 15, 2015, 12:42:18 PM
X86,

The ART runtime from pre-5.0 is a very different creature. In fact, you shouldn't be using it at all as an end user. That's why you had to specifically enable it from the developer options and it came with a warning in tow.

TL;DR: yep, we know it works on ART in pre-5.0, but that's not particularly interesting to us.


[Saint]
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: halonachos117 on September 13, 2016, 08:45:14 PM
Hello Rasher. If you're still taking requests, please consider 2560x1440 (Galaxy S6).

PS: I'd like to mention I've been trying to compile my own 2560x1440 for hours now, and have had nothing but problems (I don't want to talk about them, since that isn't really what this thread if for).
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: gevaerts on September 14, 2016, 03:21:40 AM
Hello Rasher. If you're still taking requests, please consider 2560x1440 (Galaxy S6).

As far as I can see, Galaxy S6 is android 5 or higher. That's very unlikely to work anyway.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: [Saint] on September 14, 2016, 09:25:15 PM
Not just unlikely, it won't, period.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Android: rasher's unmodified daily builds.
Post by: halonachos117 on September 15, 2016, 05:43:59 PM
I'm running Rockbox (version a8758c9-151114) on another device (Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, 1024x600) with CyanogenMod 12.1, which is based off of Android 5.1.1.  Rockbox seems to be working quite well on that device.

My S6 is running a stock 5.1.1 Android dristo (I don't like using the word "rom" to describe an Android system) so I would assume all would be  well.