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Installation / Removal => Manual Installation => Toshiba - Installation/Removal => Topic started by: daeman13 on October 08, 2008, 01:04:51 PM

Title: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: daeman13 on October 08, 2008, 01:04:51 PM
ok well i installed rockbox and it work fine and its really nice and everything. but i failed to read that in order to convert the encrypted .sat files i need to set my gigabeat to connect with WMP 10 and then copy them over. now i have rockbox installed and working but it doesnt recognize that my mp3s are there because there encrypted and i cant revert back to the OF ive tried copying the OF GBSYSTEM files from my gigabeat folder. it didnt work it just keeps trying to load rockbox with no results. ive also tried uninstalling the bootloader with the utility and that didnt work either. anyone have any idea of what i can do.

right now i copied all my encrypted music to my comp and my F10 is sitting there with nothing on it cept rockbox.
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: Chronon on October 08, 2008, 01:21:32 PM
The Rockbox bootloader is just a replacement for one of the Gigabeat firmware files.  If your F10 is still trying to boot Rockbox it means you didn't replace the correct file or didn't cycle the battery switch.

Did you follow these instructions (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatFXPort#Remove_SAT_Encryption_Optional)? 
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: daeman13 on October 08, 2008, 01:25:37 PM
i wouldve tried that but i installed rockbox before i realized i had to do that lol. ill retry copying the files again

edit: i have copied my GBSYSTEM folder overwirtten all the files on my gigabeat after uninstalling using the util and its still trying to use the rockbox bootloader and i cycled the battery aswell.  ???  still not working
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: Chronon on October 08, 2008, 01:46:54 PM
You notice that there's a section of those instructions for those who have already installed Rockbox, right?  You don't mention if you're using the cradle or not.
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: daeman13 on October 08, 2008, 05:28:20 PM
no im not using the cradle as i cant find it but i will look for it later and try again. thanks for the help
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: Phalangees on October 08, 2008, 05:36:10 PM
If you need to get back to the original firmware, you need to go into the GBSYSTEM folder. There should be a folder named FWIMG. Inside of that folder there _SHOULD_ be a FWIMG01.DAT and a FWIMG01.DAT.ORIG. The FWIMG01.DAT is rockbox and the FWIMG01.DAT.ORIG is the original firmware.

If you have the FWIMG01.DAT.ORIG, rename the FWIMG01.DAT to FWIMG01.DAT.ROCK and change FWIMG01.DAT.ORIG to FWIMG01.DAT. Make sure you safely eject, turn off the gigabeat, and cycle the battery.

If you don't have the FWIMG01.DAT.ORIG, you can find it on your computer assuming you have gigabeat room installed. If you browse into Program Files, you should be able to find the Gigabeat Room folder. I'm not sure if it's inside of a Toshiba folder or not. Inside of the gigabeat room folder, look for a hidden GBSYSTEM folder. I can't remember if you have to dig inside of folders for it but it should be there. Inside of it, there is a FWIMG folder with the FWIMG01.DAT file that you need. Copy that into your gigabeat's FWIMG folder and eject, power off, and cycle the battery.

Hopefully that helps.
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: daeman13 on October 08, 2008, 07:19:11 PM
i just did this and it didnt work. copied it from my gigabeat room folder and its still trying to load rockbox. i dont understand.
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: Phalangees on October 08, 2008, 09:33:47 PM
That's incredibly strange. Try turning off the gigabeat, and turning off the battery switch. Leave it like that for a couple minutes and then flip the battery switch back on. Try booting then.

If that still doesn't work, then I have no clue.
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: daeman13 on October 08, 2008, 10:45:36 PM
ok i will try that.
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: Chronon on October 08, 2008, 11:40:22 PM
You only need the cradle for removing the encryption. 

Out of curiosity, how big is the current FWIMG01.DAT file that's on your Gigabeat?
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: daeman13 on October 09, 2008, 01:32:39 AM
its 50kb all the ones ive transferred have been 50kb
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: Chronon on October 09, 2008, 01:55:21 AM
That would be the Rockbox bootloader then.  That explains it. 

The original firmware file should be around 1MB in size (1171kB, in my case).
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: Phalangees on October 09, 2008, 08:34:34 AM
Even the one in the Gigabeat Room folder was 50kb?
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: daeman13 on October 09, 2008, 10:26:24 AM
yes in both the gigabeat room 2.02 and 3 all the files have been 50kb

well could someone maybe upload the original files for me? i would really appreciate it.

edit: ok this is weird even when i uninstall gigabeat room and re-install from my cd all of the fwigm files are 50kb none of them are the original file for some reason. ???
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: Phalangees on October 09, 2008, 10:48:57 AM
I'm fairly sure the FWIMG01.DAT changes with each tosiba firmware update so if you put the wrong one on your gigabeat, you will have to open it up to get into recovery mode.

Do you know what version your original firmware was? I've got the files if you have 3.000.
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: daeman13 on October 09, 2008, 10:58:55 AM
i got it too work by using the files that were on my other computer from a looong time ago so i got it back to 2.02 and now im going to convert all my mp3s lol.

its working now thanks guys! ;D
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: Chronon on October 09, 2008, 11:20:07 AM
That's great news!  :)
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: daeman13 on October 09, 2008, 01:00:16 PM
lol apparently copying the .sat mp3s to my computer than recopying them to my gigabeat with OF doesnt work lol. it doesnt regocnize them. so i think im just gonna re download my music into rockbox. rockbox doesnt encrypt them does it? (i assume not)

oh yea and my cradle is borken i think and doesnt work.
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: Chronon on October 09, 2008, 02:42:45 PM
Ah.  Well, you need the cradle to remove the encryption, as it says on that page.  I guess you restored the OF for nothing!  :D

Rockbox does nothing to your files.  You can put them anywhere you want, no strings attached.
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: daeman13 on October 09, 2008, 03:45:58 PM
allriight im gonna re download 10 gigs of music tonight w00t  :-[ but thanks for all the help guys
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: Chronon on October 09, 2008, 07:21:29 PM
Transfers should be pretty quick.  I don't think it'll be too much of a hassle.
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: daeman13 on October 09, 2008, 09:23:33 PM
can rockbox read .sat? i was under the impression it cant and when i re-transferred the encrypted files back to my OF f10 it doesnt want to read them either. so i actually have to re download all my music and re-transfer it over.
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: Chronon on October 10, 2008, 02:53:36 AM
Oh, I had assumed that you keep your music on your PC.   :o
Title: Re: removing .SAT encryption/bootloader problem.
Post by: daeman13 on October 10, 2008, 08:55:31 AM
it was on my old pc but i deleted it after uploading everything to my gigabeat.