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Installation / Removal => Manual Installation => Apple - Installation/Removal => Topic started by: Trent on August 17, 2008, 06:47:19 PM

Title: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Trent on August 17, 2008, 06:47:19 PM
Hello, I have a Ipod Nano 1st gen (of course) I have been havingwith Rockbox I tried many things and it still wont work. 1st I installed Rockbox Utility hooked up my ipod and did the complete install and it says it installed correctly. I double checked the info section to see what it say that I installed so far everything was on the list. So I tried to run Rockbox and the ipod just rebooted nothing else. 2nd I tried to remove Rockbox and its bootloader through Rockbox Utility and decided to install Rockbox manually I installed the "current build" off your website and your ipodpatcher I successfully put in rockbox int my Ipod but ipodpatcher says unable to detect ipod so I found out how to set it in disk mode and I  tried Ipodpatcher again and it still came up as unable to find ipods. 3rd I put my Ipod in disk mode and ran Rockbox Utility again and it installed all the stuff correctly but now I tried to turn on Rockbox and it still just rebooted. Please I need help. Please post an answer as soon as possible please. trouble
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: linuxstb on August 17, 2008, 06:55:09 PM
Are you running ipodpatcher/rbutil as the Administrator (if using Windows) or the root user (if using Linux/OS X) ?
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Trent on August 17, 2008, 11:56:14 PM
yes also my computer reads my ipod but ipodpatcher still doesnt
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: GodEater on August 18, 2008, 07:49:11 AM
Could you actually post the output from you're getting from ipodpatcher ? (i.e. copy and paste it into a post here).
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Trent on August 18, 2008, 11:07:38 AM
not sure but hey can one of u guys send me a link to a video on how to get Rockbox on a iPod Nano the best way or the easiest way to do it or send me a message of a step by step on how to get Rockbox on a iPod Nano just in case ipodpatcher still doesnt work I really want this on my iPod.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Llorean on August 18, 2008, 11:14:53 AM
The official instructions are in the manual. They recommend using RBUtil. But we really can't provide any more help if you're not willing to be more specific about what error you're encountering.

As well, please don't use internet slang like replacing "you" with "u" on these forums. The guidelines make it clear why we'd prefer people attempt proper English.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Trent on August 18, 2008, 01:23:34 PM
sorry ill try to delete the data and try other ways to try and make this work. Ill post in case something comes up is there another program like ipodpatcher I can use that does basiclly the same thing, oh and another how do you switch the ipod to Rockbox.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: bluebrother on August 18, 2008, 01:28:53 PM
is there another program like ipodpatcher I can use that does basiclly the same thing
Rockbox Utility (http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility).

And if you have problems ask specifically, as otherwise it's impossible to give helpful answers. Oh, and there's a "screenshot video", even without animation and much faster load time (!) at the wiki (http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/GraphicalInstall), but as that's linked from the Rockbox Utility page you most likely already knew that ...
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Trent on August 18, 2008, 03:45:19 PM
Can being a Vista user change how ipodpatcher reads ipods or no ive also been getting a lot of comments saying that ipodpatcher can't read their ipod even though its in disk mode and most of the people there on the comments have ipod nanos.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: GodEater on August 19, 2008, 02:41:59 AM
Look, unless you actually answer some of the questions we've posted here for more information instead of idly speculating about what's going on then this thread serves no value to you, or to anyone else, and I'm going to lock it.

This is the final request we're going to make - provide more information, or go away.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Trent on August 20, 2008, 06:34:32 PM
Ok this is the best ill get I heard about Rockbox through trying to find a way to watch videos from my new Ipod Nano 1st Gen I followed your manual and desided to do the Automatic Installation. After I installed all the stuff I wanted I read your manual again on how to turn on Rockbox, nothing happens so I deside to delete all the data and deside to do all the stuff manually I did everything until I installed ipodpatcher I ran the program and the program said it couldnt find my ipod. So I found out what disk mode was and found out how to put it in disk mode so I did that then ran ipodpatcher again and the program still couldnt read it. Then I checked my laptop to double check that my laptop could read my ipod it can read it fine. Im sorry I cant answer any of your questions but ill try the best I can this is all I know, this is all I did. If you can help me on why Rockbox isnt working for me and how to make it work then I will thank you for your help. Right now i wll try my best to answer all your questions
Are you running ipodpatcher/rbutil as the Administrator (if using Windows) or the root user (if using Linux/OS X) ?
Answer: Yes I am running ipodpatcher as the administrator
Could you actually post the output from you're getting from ipodpatcher ? (i.e. copy and paste it into a post here).
Answer: I dont know how to do that if you know how to do that please teach me how.
This is the best I can do if not then I dont know what exactly you guys are asking.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: bluebrother on August 21, 2008, 01:13:51 AM
Answer: I dont know how to do that if you know how to do that please teach me how.
This is the best I can do if not then I dont know what exactly you guys are asking.
Well, ipodpatcher opens a black window. You can simply read the text it prints in this window and type it into a new message -- that's what has been asked. Of course there is an easier method (but retyping it should be obvious!): click the icon on the top left edge of the title bar, choose "Edit / Mark". Then click inside the black window on the top leftmost corner and drag the cursor to the bottom right. Press "Enter". Now the text that is written there has been copied into the clipboard and you can paste it into a new post.

If you really have problems with this you should consider if you should use Rockbox. You need a bit more than "no idea about computer" to not get annoyed by it. Besides, we expect you to teach yourself at least to some basic degree, and how to copy the output of a window on screen is something I'd put among those (making a screenshot is another quite obvious way to show us the output, but well ...)
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Trent on August 21, 2008, 09:58:38 PM
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ipodpatcher v2.0 with v2.0 bootloaders - (C) Dave Chapman 2006-2007
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

[INFO] Scanning disk devices...
[ERR]  No ipods found, aborting
[ERR]  Please connect your ipod and ensure it is in disk mode
[ERR]  Please refer to the Rockbox manual if you continue to have problems.

Press ENTER to exit ipodpatcher :
Sorry about earlier I know how to copy and paste and retype I just didnt know what you were asking you said it like something else orther than saying just copy and paste in a post, sorry.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Chronon on August 22, 2008, 05:22:59 PM
Ipodpatcher doesn't seem to see a valid Nano on your computer.  Does your iPod get a drive letter in My Computer?  Is it possible that it's a 2nd gen Nano?
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Trent on August 22, 2008, 05:36:43 PM
Ipodpatcher doesn't seem to see a valid Nano on your computer.  Does your iPod get a drive letter in My Computer?  Is it possible that it's a 2nd gen Nano?
Yes my Ipod gets a drive letter from my computer and my dad said that it isnt 2nd gen its first gen isnt 2nd gen plays video
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Chronon on August 22, 2008, 05:47:20 PM
Have a look here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353

The first generation iPod has flat sides and a plastic front.  The second generation has rounded sides and an anodized aluminum cover (in several possible colors).

Video is a new feature on the 3rd generation Nano.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Trent on August 22, 2008, 07:40:21 PM
Can Ipod Mini  work with Rockbox or only Nano
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Chronon on August 22, 2008, 07:43:54 PM
The main page lists all of the players that Rockbox runs on.  (Yes, it works on the Mini.)
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Llorean on August 22, 2008, 08:03:27 PM
3rd gen plays video. 2nd gen does not.

What color is it, and is it made out of aluminum or plastic front and silver back?
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Trent on August 22, 2008, 08:10:12 PM
Silver and is there a way to put a picture on a post.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Chronon on August 22, 2008, 08:14:18 PM
Silver means it's a 2nd generation Nano.  The page I pointed you to before tells you that the 1st generation Nano is only available in black and white (in addition to having a plastic front and metal back).  Silver is the color of a 2nd generation Nano (having an anodized aluminum cover).

The bottom left icon in the "Add BBC tags" block is a framed picture.  It encloses a URL in "img" tags. 
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Trent on August 22, 2008, 08:20:39 PM
Is there a way to tell what Ipod you have through the ipod like typing the model name number and ifo on the ipod- Settings-About.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Chronon on August 22, 2008, 08:21:54 PM
The page I linked you to before is Apple's own page for identifying your iPod.  Trust me, 1st generation Nanos do not exist in silver.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Trent on August 22, 2008, 08:24:04 PM
will there ever be a program that rockbox can work in Ipod Nano second gen because I just did resarch on the model number of my ipod and found out its second gen.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Llorean on August 22, 2008, 08:30:11 PM
See the thread in the New Ports section. Don't ask for updates, but it will show any work we know about being done.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Trent on August 22, 2008, 08:34:05 PM
alright then you guys have saved me hours of work I thank you unfortunte that 2nd gen Nano wont work on Rockbox and im sure im not supose to ask this but is there a way to hack the firmware on the 2nd gen to maybe get Rockbox to work if not then ill wait to get an Ipod or some apple product that Rockbox will work.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Llorean on August 22, 2008, 08:38:27 PM
No, there's no way to get it to work without someone doing all the work that they're not doing.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Trent on August 22, 2008, 08:41:22 PM
alright thanks for your guys help again Ill let you know if I can finally get it to work.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: bluebrother on August 23, 2008, 01:05:14 AM
isnt 2nd gen plays video
No. The IpodFAQ (http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodFAQ) has a nice article of apple linked that tells how to distinguish players. Please check this page first before taking claims as apple should be the one knowing best how to distinguish them ...
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Chronon on August 23, 2008, 01:13:59 AM
It's the same page that I linked and repeatedly referenced above.   ;)

But it's a good point to emphasize that this information is reachable through the IpodFAQ.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Trent on August 23, 2008, 12:20:05 PM
I already found out that the 2nd gen ipod doesnt play video shortly after I was asking that question. But thank you for all the information you guys have given me.
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: GodEater on August 26, 2008, 02:21:36 AM
No - only the third gen Nano plays video under Apple's own firmware.

So - describe your Nano - what colour is it? What's it made from (metal, or plastic) ?
Title: Re: ipodpatcher error
Post by: Chronon on August 26, 2008, 12:01:44 PM
He has already realized that he has a 2nd generation Nano.    ;)

It's a silver 2nd generation Nano.