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Installation / Removal => Manual Installation => Apple - Installation/Removal => Topic started by: MacEvansCB on June 17, 2007, 12:52:32 AM

Title: 3G iPod not found
Post by: MacEvansCB on June 17, 2007, 12:52:32 AM
I've got a 20GB 3G iPod I would like to run Rockbox on.
I've downloaded the current software and downloaded the ipodpatcher via the link in the current manual.
After formatting the ipod with FAT32, unmounting it, and putting it into disk mode, the ipodpatcher program can't find it:
     [INFO] Scanning disk devices...
     [ERR]  No ipods found, aborting
     [ERR]  Please connect your ipod and ensure it is in disk mode
     [ERR]  Also ensure that itunes is closed, and that your ipod is not mounted.
     [ERR]  Please refer to the Rockbox manual if you continue to have problems.
The iPod is connected and shows disk mode at the top of its screen.
iTunes is not running and Disk Utility shows the iPod is not mounted.

After some searching of this forum, I see that support for the 3G is spotty and that I need to run some older version of the bootloader/ipodpatcher.

Could someone please point me to a working version of ipodpatcher that will allow me to install on my 3G?
Title: Re: 3G iPod not found
Post by: linuxstb on June 17, 2007, 03:35:37 AM
How did you format it to FAT32?  Did you follow the instructions on the Rockbox website?

Also, does the Apple firmware still work on your ipod?

As far as I know, the current version of ipodpatcher should work on 3G ipod.
Title: Re: 3G iPod not found
Post by: MacEvansCB on June 17, 2007, 10:46:51 AM
According to the "Convert to FAT32" page on the Rockbox site, with iPods older than 5G, one should just use the Apple Disk Utility to reformat the iPod.  I did this.  Then the info for the iPod disk shows that the Partition is FDISK type and the partition filesystem is FAT32.  Other than that, the iPod is empty.

And, yes, I was able to reformat the iPod to Apple standard, restore it, and reload all my songs.  It works fine.

I'm using the Rockbox for iPod 3G manual dated June 16, 2007.
The system the iPod is connected to is a standard dual G5 2GHz PowerMac with 2.6GB RAM and 960GB HD [4 drives]

What am I missing here??  
Do I need to have some kind of iPod software in it after formatting it??
Title: Re: 3G iPod not found
Post by: Llorean on June 17, 2007, 10:50:10 AM
What do you mean by "the partition is FDISK" type.
Title: Re: 3G iPod not found
Post by: linuxstb on June 17, 2007, 11:35:47 AM

According to the "Convert to FAT32" page on the Rockbox site, with iPods older than 5G, one should just use the Apple Disk Utility to reformat the iPod.  I did this.


That's Step d).  Did you also follow steps a), b) and c) ?

After converting to FAT32, your ipod should still start up in the Apple firmware, and itunes should recognise it and be able to transfer your music to it.

If that's not the case, then you didn't successfully convert it to FAT32, and ipodpatcher won't work.
Title: Re: 3G iPod not found
Post by: MacEvansCB on June 17, 2007, 12:55:41 PM
Ok ... I get that now, but ....

Step b) says to use a partition map that EXACTLY MATCHES my iPod model.  
I don't see any entry for a 20G 3G iPod.

???
Title: Re: 3G iPod not found
Post by: GodEater on June 17, 2007, 02:17:12 PM
Sadly that would be because we don't get very many 3G users visit us, and to my knowledge, none of the development team own one - so we've never had the opportunity to get hold of a 3G MBR. I know someone at work that owns one - I'll see if they'll lend it to me for 10 minutes tomorrow and see if I can grab the thing off that.
Title: Re: 3G iPod not found
Post by: MacEvansCB on June 17, 2007, 04:28:49 PM
would the partition info off my iPod help? .... even if it is formatted for Mac right now??
Title: Re: 3G iPod not found
Post by: MacEvansCB on June 17, 2007, 04:33:19 PM
Just in case:

Dougs-G5:~ de$ /Volumes/ipodpatcher-1.1/ipodpatcher; exit
ipodpatcher v1.0 with v1.1 bootloaders - (C) Dave Chapman 2006-2007
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

[INFO] Scanning disk devices...
[INFO] Ipod found - 3rd Generation ("macpod") - /dev/disk5
[INFO] Reading partition table from /dev/disk5
[INFO] Sector size is 512 bytes
[INFO] Part    Start Sector    End Sector   Size (MB)   Type
[INFO]    0              63         65598        32.0   Empty (0x00)
[INFO]    1           65600      39063015     19041.7   HFS/HFS+ (0xffffffff)
[INFO] Ipod model: 3rd Generation ("macpod")
[INFO] ************************************************************************
[INFO] *** WARNING FOR ROCKBOX USERS
[INFO] *** You must convert this ipod to FAT32 format (aka a "winpod")
[INFO] *** if you want to run Rockbox.  Rockbox WILL NOT work on this ipod.
[INFO] *** See http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodConversionToFAT32
[INFO] ************************************************************************
Enter i to install the Rockbox bootloader, u to uninstall
 or c to cancel and do nothing (i/u/c) :
Title: Re: 3G iPod not found
Post by: GodEater on June 18, 2007, 02:05:51 AM
Only for curiousity purposes :)

Of course - the chap I know at work with the 3G didn't bring it in today. I've asked him to try to remember it tomorrow. Sorry for the delay!