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Support and General Use => Theming and Appearance Customization => Topic started by: Llorean on March 24, 2009, 06:15:42 PM
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The new theme site is up (see the link under downloads to the left).
Those of you who've made themes in the wiki: If those themes work with SVN Rockbox and meet the license requirements described http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=21063.0 should re-upload their theme to the new theme site.
New themes for SVN Rockbox should be uploaded here as well. We're expecting to take down the wiki pages at some point in the future. The new site will be used via RBUtil and of course direct browsing, and will offer some theme validation options to help ensure a better user experience for everyone.
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Apparently, I can't upload a theme compilation to the new site. I get this error:Filename invalid: .rockbox/themes/Y.cfg (should be X.cfg) Is there something i missed? Another thing: you're not allowed to have spaces in your folder/filenames which is a disadvantage IMO. Rockbox is perfectly capable of handling filenames containing spaces, why cripple wps file names that way?
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Well if you could post the actual error message and some more details about the theme you are trying to upload, it'd be a lot easier to help you.
You are allowed to have spaces in your filenames. Why do you say that you're not?
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Error Message:
Your wps didn't pass checkwps. Here's the output: Failed to open .rockbox/wps/Rhombic Failed to open .rockbox/wps/Rhombic Failed to open .rockbox/wps/Rhombic Failed to open .rockbox/wps/Rhombic
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I can't unzip your archive. Which program did you use to make it.
And insulting me won't help you.
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here (http://www.mediafire.com/?nity3iy2luz)'s the zip file.
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There was a bug, it's fixed now.
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Define now please, because i have tried it five minutes ago and then it gave me that error message. One last thing: Where is the image of the Menu shown? i only see the WPS screenshot.
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Now being at this moment in time.
Edit: The image of the menu is not shown anywhere at this moment, but will be in the future, probably shown as mouse-over for the main image.
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thanks for the info and the fix. It's nice to see my themes in rbqutil :)
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Could I put in a request for someone to take a moment or two out of their day to move all of my themes over for me? I don't have access to my own personal computer and I don't have enough time at the library on their computers to grab all my files to re-upload them. It would be greatly appreciated...
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In spite of being very clear in the theme guidelines, and also in the text in the theme uploading form ("Description: If your theme uses images from other
themes, please include the name(s) and author(s) of those themes here"), a theme (Boofers by Sharykin Vitaliy) based on one of my themes (AW200) was uploaded without honouring attribution... what should I do? I would PM the uploader, but I don't know his nickname
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i think someone should be able to give out his valid e-mail address to you, because he has to follow the verify link, right?
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In spite of being very clear in the theme guidelines, and also in the text in the theme uploading form ("Description: If your theme uses images from other
themes, please include the name(s) and author(s) of those themes here"), a theme (Boofers by Sharykin Vitaliy) based on one of my themes (AW200) was uploaded without honouring attribution... what should I do? I would PM the uploader, but I don't know his nickname
Is this simply a matter of attribution? If so, I'll be more than happy to add it for you and send a stern mail to Sharykin Vitaliy.
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Is this simply a matter of attribution? If so, I'll be more than happy to add it for you and send a stern mail to Sharykin Vitaliy.
Yes, simply a matter of attribution, so what you propose would be fine, thanks ... being of course attribution an important matter, as well as the other aspects of the license, so hopefully this example calls the attention of people uploading themes that use others material ;) although as I said, it is already very clear everywhere
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I didn't mean to imply attribution was unimportant. I've updated the theme details and unhidden it now.
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I didn't mean to imply attribution was unimportant. I've updated the theme details and unhidden it now.
Neither did I mean you were implying that, the message was for theme uploaders. Thanks again!
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i wanted to upload a theme with a psd folder in the same zip, but that was not accepted by the uploader. could you change that? or, as suggested in this thread (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=20639.0), could we create a WpsResources page where i can put these files?
PS: RButilqt tells me "No themes available for the selected target", although i could install rockbox on the device (Gigabeat F20).
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i wanted to upload a theme with a psd folder in the same zip, but that was not accepted by the uploader.
And rightly so. This is not in any way part of the theme
could you change that? or, as suggested in this thread (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=20639.0), could we create a WpsResources page where i can put these files?
That seems like a fine idea. It's a wiki - feel free to create it.
PS: RButilqt tells me "No themes available for the selected target", although i could install rockbox on the device (Gigabeat F20).
Yes, unfortunately a bug crept in after fixing another more serious flaw in the theme site. A new Rockbox Utility release will unfortunately be necessary.
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And rightly so. This is not in any way part of the theme
And rightly so. This is not in any way part of the theme
I have to disagree. see, i thought about uploading my blackglass remixes and because the new theme site did not accept my previous zip file containing multiple themes, i decided to only upload the template of the blackglass theme, since each derivation of it i created just had different backgrounds and different colour setups, but the code and the icon alignment were all the same. so i attached the psd, for people to create their "own wps" without having to know the coding part. here, take a look. nobody would like to have this without a background... so the psd is an essential part of this theme. Basically this idea of letting people create their own background without the coding skills and still have a nice looking theme was what made me create this theme in the first place. it was actually the first wps i ever did and also the reason why i learned how to read wps code.
So basically i want to know if there could be an exception only for this theme, or if it is possible to integrate links in the wps description.
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The theme site is to make it easier for people to download and immediately use themes. Half the people using the site will never visit it directly, and the theme will never really reside on their computer.
A psd file would be completely useless.
If you want to have "resources for creating themes" available somewhere to share with people, setting up a separate location for this might make sense, but it's not what the actual theme site is about.
The "theme" is the part that can actually be used on the player, and that's what's to be available through the theme site.
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And rightly so. This is not in any way part of the themeAnd rightly so. This is not in any way part of the theme
because the new theme site did not accept my previous zip file containing multiple themes
This is also by design - not just because I'm lazy.
One download = one theme. If the user wants colour variations, he can download those as he chooses.
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I never read about the purpose of the new theme site, so i think it's good we discuss it here. i understood that the new theme site shall replace the old wps gallery.
The "theme" is the part that can actually be used on the player, and that's what's to be available through the theme site.
Simply put: you want to dumb it down so you can reach a bigger audience? That's fine, but then i think the gallery must stay online.
The gallery is a place where it's easy to upload the sources to a theme, uploading multiple themes contained in one zip isn't a hassle either. But most importantly, it is no problem to update themes in the gallery. How do we update themes on the new site?
This is also by design - not just because I'm lazy.
One download = one theme. If the user wants colour variations, he can download those as he chooses.
I never suggested this had anything to do with laziness. I just question the "one theme At a a time" approach. I think it would be best to have two options for theme creators: - they could choose to upload one theme at a time.
- Or they could choose to upload a theme collection. this collection would have to have
- a screenshot for each theme inside
- separated zips
- and one zip which contains all of them
- this is exactly what i did with my rhombic theme (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGigabeatF#Rhombic)
The user would then see the wps pack in the themes list in rbutil which he could either expand or download as a whole.
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I'm not sure why the gallery "must" stay online. Having themes in multiple locations is just going to make it *harder* for people to find usable themes.
A separate location that is only theme sources (psd files, etc) makes sense, but theme creation data shouldn't be intermixed with themes anyway.
As for theme collections - if you have multiple versions of a theme, why not just upload each of them? Why does it need to be a "collection"?
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I think it's more convenient for the user to have theme collections. if he/she likes the basic design of the theme, why obligate him to download each variation of this theme separately?
PS: Why do i have to re-verify my e-mail anytime i upload a theme? can't this info be stored somewhere? it's really annoying.
As regarding why the gallery must stay online you did not answer my question: how are themes being updated on the new site? will rasher (or another theme site admin for that matter) have to update each theme, when the wps syntax is changed himself?
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It's going to take the same amount of time to download them separately as downloading them as a collection. And they're still going to need to look at every single variation, or there's the potential for having versions of the theme they'll never use because of a backdrop they don't like or whatever.
Collections, honestly, just increase the likelihood of the user ending up with clutter on their player.
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PS: Why do i have to re-verify my e-mail anytime i upload a theme? can't this info be stored somewhere? it's really annoying.
That would mean adding an entire system of users and logins etc. There's precious little need for it. Is it really that hard to click on a link in an email?
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it's not hard, it's just annoying if you have to do 15 times.
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it's not hard, it's just annoying if you have to do 15 times.
True, but that should only be now. Next time you're presumably not going to have to upload all themes you ever made
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As regarding why the gallery must stay online you did not answer my question: how are themes being updated on the new site? will rasher (or another theme site admin for that matter) have to update each theme, when the wps syntax is changed himself?
For now, you could upload the new version and tell an admin to delete the old one. In the future, there will be a way to update a theme you've uploaded.
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OK, i hope we'll get more people to use the utility. In the end this is a big step towards making a player run rockbox and look awesome very easy. The only fear i have is that people might stop creating their own themes, but then again a theme isn't the reason why you buy DAPs.