Rockbox Technical Forums
Installation / Removal => Manual Installation => Apple - Installation/Removal => Topic started by: busta5000 on June 06, 2008, 02:21:08 AM
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well I downloaded the rockbox for ipod 80gb & installed the ipod patcher & I put my ipod in diskmode then plugged it in then I extracted the .rockbox into my ipod then I clicked on ipod patcher but it said [err]no ipods found,aborting :'(.
many people have this problem but because they made some mistakes on the other hand I did what I was instructed in youtube the funny thing is that in the video everything is fine!!!! so why don't I get detected ???!!! I mean the ipodpatcher why doesn't it detect my ipod though it is in diskmode.
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First: Are you sure you have an iPod Video, and not an iPod classic?
Second: We don't provide support for instructions given in some random Youtube video. Our instructions are in the "Manual" link to the left.
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First: Are you sure you have an iPod Video, and not an iPod classic?
Second: We don't provide support for instructions given in some random Youtube video. Our instructions are in the "Manual" link to the left.
they are the same I read them.
but youtube gives visual tutorial which is better thats all. yes I have ipod 80gb 5gen & it is not classic I know ipods for sure & I have ipod 80gb video.
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What serial number is your iPod (on the back)? Just need the last three digits.
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First: Are you sure you have an iPod Video, and not an iPod classic?
Second: We don't provide support for instructions given in some random Youtube video. Our instructions are in the "Manual" link to the left.
they are the same I read them.
but youtube gives visual tutorial which is better thats all.
It is very much not better - instructions can change, and we have no control over what some random person sticks on youtube, in fact they are usually completely wrong.
Back to the point, please supply the serial number digits Llorean asked for, and in addition, are you running ipodpatcher with admin/root rights?
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my last three digits are (YMV)
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It's an iPod Classic then. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353
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:'( can't rockbox work on ipod classic ???
though it says here it can work on all ipod classic except 6gen. well I have 5gen so it must work look at the link to see my point.
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort
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No. You seem confused. The iPod Video is fifth generation. All iPods sold as the "iPod Classic" are sixth generation. Rockbox cannot run on them.
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No. You seem confused. The iPod Video is fifth generation. All iPods sold as the "iPod Classic" are sixth generation. Rockbox cannot run on them.
:o why don't they make 1 I mean what I;ve seen in mac stores are 4 ipods.
ipod shuffle, ipod nano, ipod classic30gb(not in stores now it became old), ipod classic 80gb, itouch & iphone. I didn't see other products available in iSTYLE. so thats a pitty second of all as I told you the only big video ipod we have are the nano(video) & the classic & others not including the old nano & the shuffle. also why can't rockbox work anyways ??? & why don't they make an installation for classic for most people I know have the classic me too & I want rockbox so much isn't there a software that isn't for the classic but it might work on the classic I mean common at least there must be 1 rockbox that can work if there isn't any then I hope rockbox makes 1 because I spent over 5 hours trying & trying to make it work the silly thing is that iSTYLE knows nothing about rockbox so they weren't a big help for me.
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Please, use punctuation and at least make an attempt to use real grammar, as per the forum guidelines.
The 30 gig iPod was the "iPod Video". The reason Rockbox cannot run on the "iPod Classic" is because it has completely new insides, and the firmware is encrypted. It will take a lot of people a lot of time to make it work, and right now the people who own Classics, like you, aren't doing the work, and we can't make them do it.
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I didn't see other products available in iSTYLE.
But I see plenty of Rockbox-compatible iPods on eBay.
the silly thing is that iSTYLE knows nothing about rockbox so they weren't a big help for me.
Do you really expect a consumer website to know about alternative firmwares? Seriously.
Your only options right now are: (1) Go on eBay and look for a device Rockbox will run on, or (2) get to work on a port to the iPod Classic (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort).
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I didn't see other products available in iSTYLE.
But I see plenty of Rockbox-compatible iPods on eBay.
the silly thing is that iSTYLE knows nothing about rockbox so they weren't a big help for me.
Do you really expect a consumer website to know about alternative firmwares? Seriously.
Your only options right now are: (1) Go on eBay and look for a device Rockbox will run on, or (2) get to work on a port to the iPod Classic (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort).
If the professionals who made rockbox don;t know how to make it work on the classic how can I the normal guy make it work!!!!! seriously I mean when you come to a restaurant are you the one that is suppose to cook or is it the cook himself!!!.
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We aren't professionals. We're all normal guys.
This is like a bunch of people going to the park with hot dogs, firing up some grills, and sharing the hot dogs. You're the new guy who came to the park, and said "Gee, I'd really like some hamburgers." So we said "Well, go get some and grill 'em up, we're not stoppin' yah."
No restaurant or professionals involved. "We" are not "supposed to" do anything for you.
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I don't think you can compare encryption breaking and embedded systems programming to picking up a pair of tongs. The former two require specialized skills and knowledge that take years to develop.
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seriously I mean when you come to a restaurant are you the one that is suppose to cook or is it the cook himself!!!.
How many volunteer cooks do you know? And would you complain if you didn't like the free food they offered you?
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Not everyone can cook a hamburger without burning it either. They're both knowledge skills with minimal physical requirements. With encryption breaking, it requires an input/output stream with a computer. With cooking for a picnic it requires the means to manipulate the meat, and an apparatus for cooking said meat.
He picked the cooking metaphor, my point was merely "it's not our job, nobody gives us a paycheck to work on Rockbox." If he's dedicated and interested enough, he can learn the necessary skills. But saying "I can't be bothered to spend the time, it is the obligation of those who have the skills to use them for me" is silly. By that logic, I should be able to go up to anyone who's worked for Habitat for Humanity and tell them they should build me a house, because they've volunteered to do it in the past.
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The "I can't be bothered" and "it is the obligation of others" points are separate. Telling a user to get cracking on a port isn't going to be very productive when you pretty well know that he has no experience in programming.
Cooking is a general life skill. By the time you get to the park, you already know how to cook. Not everyone has the interest to learn how to program.
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Locked, I believe the original question has been answered - we don't need to debate this in the install forum, do we?
EDIT: Ok, NOT locked - just stay on subject - I trust everyone's better judgment not to take this further off-topic in the name of getting in the last word.
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Telling a user to get cracking on a port isn't going to be very productive when you pretty well know that he has no experience in programming.
Pretty sure that wasn't meant to be taken literally as a command to go out and port rockbox, and rather that the link to the NewPorts page was meant to underscore just how difficult the work is and explain why no one has been able to do it so far.
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Yeah I figured, but I've seen a few instances of this, and they don't seem to take it that way, since they always reply in the manner of "What?? Me? I can't do THAT!"
Considering the sentence prior to it, I took busta5000's comment about who's supposed to be cooking at the restaurant as simply talking about skills.
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I personally find it hard to read as just about knowledge when he's made it clear he thinks we're professionals at this, when nobody is being paid to do it, and he's not talking about who knows how to do a task, but in his own words, who's "suppose[d]" to do a task in a given situation.
Especially given that you yourself mentioned you consider cooking a basic life skill, in which case at a restaurant both the customer and the cook are able to perform the task (have the knowledge) so it's only a matter of "whose job is it" rather than "who knows how" in his analogy. Given that, what about his statement said "people at a restaurant don't know how to cook" (which would be pretty much necessary were it merely about knowledge)?
But I really think the key point is the idea of who's supposed to do it. Just having superior knowledge of a matter never means you're supposed to be the one who makes use of that knowledge merely because others want to benefit from it.
On the other hand, nobody's saying *he's* supposed to do it. The point was that the only way to guarantee it gets done is to be the one who does it.
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Yeah I figured,
Then you should not have said otherwise.
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I personally find it hard to read as just about knowledge when he's made it clear he thinks we're professionals at this, when nobody is being paid to do it, and he's not talking about who knows how to do a task, but in his own words, who's "suppose[d]" to do a task in a given situation.
As far as I know, "professional" doesn't always mean "someone getting paid", it can just mean "an expert" i.e. one that does something "at a professional level".
Especially given that you yourself mentioned you consider cooking a basic life skill, in which case at a restaurant both the customer and the cook are able to perform the task (have the knowledge) so it's only a matter of "whose job is it" rather than "who knows how" in his analogy. Given that, what about his statement said "people at a restaurant don't know how to cook" (which would be pretty much necessary were it merely about knowledge)?
The cook is (presumably) much better at cooking.
But I really think the key point is the idea of who's supposed to do it. Just having superior knowledge of a matter never means you're supposed to be the one who makes use of that knowledge merely because others want to benefit from it.
Of course not.
On the other hand, nobody's saying *he's* supposed to do it. The point was that the only way to guarantee it gets done is to be the one who does it.
Alrighty then.
I guess I forgave the supposing of the cook since I thought it was just a follow-on from the previous sentence, and a bad example.
@ saratoga: well, I wasn't completely sure.
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I am going to lock this again, as it has got even more pointless. I would suggest some people ought to check a dictionary for the definition of "analogy"