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Title: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: JimZipCode on February 04, 2017, 01:11:42 AM
So, it's here.

Hi, hunterleo,
So, can rockbox os work on this player?
Theoretically yes, however, rocker hasn't been ported with Rockbox yet.

There is very little that I can do to help this effort.  However, one thing I can do is, I can buy one or two of these things and ship them to a developer who is interested in working on this.  I've got a hefty Amazon gift card from Christmas, burning a hole in my pocket.  And I would be THRILLED to make a substantive contribution to a potential Rockbox port to this device.

Any takers?  Please PM me.

Thanks,

Jim
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: pamaury on February 04, 2017, 12:45:07 PM
I will do the port, since I'm already working on the Fiio X1 with a very close soc.
I found the programming manual online:
http://198.13.102.98/bj/ingenic_support/X1000_X1000E_X1500/02_HW/01_Phoenix/Phoenix_V2.0/03Datasheet/X1000_PM_20150918.pdf (http://198.13.102.98/bj/ingenic_support/X1000_X1000E_X1500/02_HW/01_Phoenix/Phoenix_V2.0/03Datasheet/X1000_PM_20150918.pdf)
It might not be the latest version but that's good stuff already. I will upload it to the wiki. I don't have the device yet.
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: JimZipCode on February 04, 2017, 05:38:05 PM
I don't have the device yet.

Want one?
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: pamaury on February 05, 2017, 08:56:32 AM
I don't have the device yet.

Want one?

Hi, thanks for the proposal :) I will first wait a few days see if AGPTek can send me one ;)
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: JimZipCode on February 07, 2017, 08:47:21 PM
I will first wait a few days see if AGPTek can send me one ;)

Ok, let me know.
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: Greg T. on February 08, 2017, 07:37:00 PM
What's the screen resolution?
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: lebellium on February 10, 2017, 06:48:53 AM
It's not written anywhere in the manual or specifications but having the device in my hands now, it looks like to me it's 128x160. It looks terrible even if the screen is only 1,8".
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: joe.hisashi on February 22, 2017, 10:54:38 AM
Just making sure I am eying the correct model that you guys are developing for.
Would this be the right model?
https://www.amazon.de/Bluetooth-Verlustfreie-Qualit%C3%A4t-unterst%C3%BCtzt-Speicherkarte/dp/B01NBRJBOH/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487778007&sr=8-1&keywords=agptek+rocker

Also, has there been any progress with the port?
Is it safe to say that Rockbox will be fully functional on this device? (Have to decide whether to send my G05 back)
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: gevaerts on February 22, 2017, 04:33:05 PM
Is it safe to say that Rockbox will be fully functional on this device? (Have to decide whether to send my G05 back)

It's never safe to assume that a rockbox port will be successful
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: joe.hisashi on February 22, 2017, 05:08:19 PM
Didn't the manufacturer seek out the most prominent Rockbox developers, specifically discussing what hardware to incorporate regarding the Rocker, in order to ensure full compatibility with Rockbox?
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51071.0.html

Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: JimZipCode on February 22, 2017, 05:22:58 PM
Didn't the manufacturer seek out the most prominent Rockbox developers, specifically discussing what hardware to incorporate regarding the Rocker, in order to ensure full compatibility with Rockbox?
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51071.0.html
Sure, but it is as yet unconfirmed.  Who knows how successful they were, or how completely the build team bought into the sales guy's suggestions, or what compromises had to be made to keep costs manageable?  Etc etc.


Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: joe.hisashi on February 22, 2017, 05:37:39 PM
I see, so as of yet we don't even know if the suggested, compatible hardware has actually been implemented in the final product. Have you guys heard anything from pamaury since February 4th?

I am kind of torn right now as I am really satisfied with the APGTek G05 which has truly proven to surpass the Sansa Clip+ , but it lacks Rockbox support.

I was leaning towards sending it back, in favor of the Rocker, but now that I've learned that a successful port isn't even guaranteed I am really lost.
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: saratoga on February 22, 2017, 05:54:52 PM
I see, so as of yet we don't even know if the suggested, compatible hardware has actually been implemented in the final product. Have you guys heard anything from pamaury since February 4th?

https://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20170222#12:23:10

I was leaning towards sending it back, in favor of the Rocker, but now that I've learned that a successful port isn't even guaranteed I am really lost.

This has nothing to do with development, so it should not be in this thread. 
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: joe.hisashi on February 22, 2017, 07:09:42 PM
Thank you, apparently I missed pamaury's response on irc.
What exactly are we to gather from this brief exchange between devs, is the current status rather positive or negative?
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: saratoga on February 22, 2017, 11:17:15 PM
What exactly are we to gather from this brief exchange between devs, is the current status rather positive or negative?

Check back in a few months. 
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: elwing on February 23, 2017, 10:36:36 AM
Does that "hello world" on irc means there's a good chance we'll get at least a partially working rockbox in the next few months?
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: pamaury on February 23, 2017, 02:31:28 PM
Hi,
just to let you know that wodz will do the port. He will port rockbox as an app, ie running on the linux kernel installed on the device.
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: wodz on February 24, 2017, 11:01:57 AM
As pamaury stated, I am working towards porting rockbox as an application which could supersede hiby_player app running on Rocker. If you are interested in technical details follow https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AgptekRocker as I use it as notepad during my work. Please keep in mind that there is loooong way before functioning port.
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: S.O.Y. on February 24, 2017, 06:32:11 PM
We'll be cheering for you. Gooo wodz, goo! You can do it!  :D
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: WillScarlett on March 17, 2017, 03:25:24 PM
That. Is. Awesome. News! (havent been here since the forums were down...)
Take your time, i suppose my current clip zip will keep going for about one more year (if his lifespan is roughly the same as that of his two deceased brothers).
Is there some way a guy like me, who has not the slightest clue about programming, can support your work on this port?
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: Massa on March 25, 2017, 06:32:19 AM
He will port rockbox as an app, ie running on the linux kernel installed on the device.
Does that mean that connections to bluetooth devices will still work - even when using rockbox?

That'd be very good!  :)


BTW, it'd also be good if AGPTek could build a similar device - but with bigger and better screen (at least 320x240) and maybe with two SD card slots...
...and of course which is also focused on supporting ROCKbox ;)
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: duo8 on March 26, 2017, 07:56:57 AM
He will port rockbox as an app, ie running on the linux kernel installed on the device.
Does that mean that connections to bluetooth devices will still work - even when using rockbox?

That'd be very good!  :)


BTW, it'd also be good if AGPTek could build a similar device - but with bigger and better screen (at least 320x240) and maybe with two SD card slots...
...and of course which is also focused on supporting ROCKbox ;)
That would be going into high-end territory.
Like the FiiO X5 and some others.
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: hunterleo on March 26, 2017, 10:30:09 PM
He will port rockbox as an app, ie running on the linux kernel installed on the device.
Does that mean that connections to bluetooth devices will still work - even when using rockbox?

That'd be very good!  :)


BTW, it'd also be good if AGPTek could build a similar device - but with bigger and better screen (at least 320x240) and maybe with two SD card slots...
...and of course which is also focused on supporting ROCKbox ;)


That would be going into high-end territory.
Like the FiiO X5 and some others.

Yes, we are working on Rocker 2nd-Gen with a better screen and clip.

Thank you,

Leo
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: wodz on March 26, 2017, 11:52:29 PM
I just want to inform you that yesterday I reached rockbox kinda running on Rocker. Lots of things doesn't work and no code is published yet. Low level drivers are almost finished though. I need to clean up my work, squash a few remaining bugs, workout install procedure and I'll push this.
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: jlm on March 27, 2017, 02:07:22 AM
That is just awesome wodz! Rooting for you!!!!
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: elwing on March 27, 2017, 01:03:07 PM
Woot, time to order! Ok, I know that it will still take time, but outcome seems good enough! Great job!
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: hunterleo on March 27, 2017, 10:39:03 PM
 ;D ;D ;D wodz

Two thumbs up!
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: fredex on April 07, 2017, 07:49:22 PM
Looking at the (lithium ion ???) battery, it seems to have sustained quite a few dents, presumably from vibration rubbing it against the circuit board. I'd find this worrisome, given LI batteries' tendency to go up in flames when damaged.

One hopes they can put at least a small layer of padding between the battery and the circuits.
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: greatjack on April 10, 2017, 12:25:32 PM
I have noticed the simulartiy between the agptek rocker and the benjie T6. Does anyone know if they are the same devices in the sense that if rockbox is ported to the rocker then it will run on the t6?

The reason why I would like to know is that it costs only 40 dollars on aly express
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: wodz on April 10, 2017, 04:02:22 PM
This are the same hardware wise
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: Doghouse Riley on June 01, 2017, 12:30:45 PM
Wodz,

The day I see it in the unstable ports list, I'm buying one,

Thank you for your work on this!!!!
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: mrandtx on June 02, 2017, 08:53:35 PM
People, the first rule of open source development is don't pester the developers.  They are doing this out of the kindness of their heart and will provide updates when they feel it is worthwhile to do so.  You asking isn't going to change anything except suck the fun out of it for them - never mind that three people asked in a row!  You can help by either contributing to the code, or being patient.

Updated to add: if there is any doubt, read item number 4 of the forum guidelines: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,21176.msg147838.html#msg147838
Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: JimZipCode on September 10, 2017, 01:33:20 AM
Not available on Amazon right now, but is available on Walmart:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/AGPTEK-ROCKER-Bluetooth-4-0-MP3-Player-High-Resolution-Lossless-Music-Player-for-Audiophile-up-to-256GB-Black/839115890


EDIT

Wups, please disregard.  The silver one *IS* on Zon:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NAU57UX

And the V2 is as well:
https://www.amazon.com/AGPTEK-Bluetooth-Resolution-Digital-Supports/dp/B06X9GZHK1



Title: Re: AGPTEK Rocker
Post by: fossphile on October 23, 2017, 05:31:49 PM
if future ones have a dedicated stereo aux/line-in input of very high quality, low low noise floor. i would very happy and interested :D. would really quite like a pro level audio recorder running rockbox :D. a pre amp strapped to a player with aux input would do. Rockbox’s recording mode its really good with lossless compression to wavpack  ;D! better then the standard pro audio recorders! Im getting to know its auto trigger function which is most handy to have. Im using my iaudio x5 currently but if i break it i have no replacement  :'(.

would also love a standard li-ion cell size like 14500. in a battery holder for easy user replacement. https://www.banggood.com/KeepPower-14500-800mAh-3_7v-Protected-Rechargeable-Li-ion-Battery-p-918316.html