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Installation / Removal => Manual Installation => Apple - Installation/Removal => Topic started by: ivet on February 21, 2007, 05:50:18 PM
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I want to download the iPL Loader 2 bootloader on my 30gb video iPod, which that allows me to choose from the available operating systems through the visual menu when my iPod starts up.
I first read this tutorial on how to do that:
http://www.alwaysbeta.com/2006/08/24/how-to-dual-boot-your-ipod-with-rockbox/
But then I realized the ipod_fw.exe and ipodpatcher.exe links they provided were not working so I moved to the rock box site to see if they had that aswell, which they infact did, here:
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation
Well, I did everything they asked for in the Installation instructions, but when I was done installing the bootloader I realized they didn't have the iPL Loader2 Boot Menu part included in those instructions.
Can someone please help me add the iPL Loader2 Boot Menu like so: http://www.alwaysbeta.com/wp-content/uploads/smcbride/rockbox/ipod_1.jpg
I tried the instructions they have under Installing Rockbox along with iPL Loader2 Boot Menu , but it did not work, because it started up the same way, with a black screen with words saying rockbox is loaded, then a girl holding a black ipod from the jBuild, following the main menu with the playlists, etc.
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Or maybe I could put everything they asked to extract from the command prompt back someway?
This pic shows everything that was taken out through the command prompt in to seperate bins:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/ivetl/pic.jpg
is there any way for me to possibly place all those bin files back to my iPod and re-do the process of installing iPL Loader 2 bootloader with Always Beta's (http://www.alwaysbeta.com...t-your-ipod-with-rockbox/) instructions?
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Since the IPL bootloader is made by Ipodlinux, you'll probably find more help there..
After you've successfully installed the loader, just dump your rockbox files into the root of your ipod - it will detect them automaticly!
http://ipodlinux.org/Loader2#Windows_installation
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I tried those instructions from the link you gave, but I still am getting errors:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/ivetl/error.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/ivetl/error2.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/ivetl/error3.jpg
I don't think I can repeat the process because in those instruction it uses the command prompt to extract the bin files. But since I already extracted the bin files, my first time incorrectly trying to install the iPL Loader Boot Menu, there is nothing left to extract, so I get these errors.
Any one have any idead how to fix this? Please help, I really want the loader boot menu, but i still get the rockbox boot menu.
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Are you logged in as Administrator? ipodpatcher requires admin privileges in order to access your ipod's hard disk.
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Yes, I am logged in as admin.
Does anyone know any way for me to put everything that was taken out of my ipod back so i can re-do the process (put everything back shown in the following link picture):
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/ivetl/pic.jpg
If I am able to put everything back to the iPod, can I do it over following the correct instruction? Please help.
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The instructions you're using are based on an old version of ipodpatcher. You can download the latest version of ipodpatcher from here:
download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/win32/ipodpatcher.exe
Copy it into the same directory as loader.bin, and then type:
ipodpatcher -ab loader.bin
ipodpatcher should search for your ipod, find it, and then installer loader.bin - you don't need to use anything else.
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The instructions you're using are based on an old version of ipodpatcher. Â You can download the latest version of ipodpatcher from here:
download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/win32/ipodpatcher.exe
Copy it into the same directory as loader.bin, and then type:
ipodpatcher -ab loader.bin
ipodpatcher should search for your ipod, find it, and then installer loader.bin - you don't need to use anything else.
I downloaded the lastest version of the ipodpatcher, copied it into the same directory as loader.bin then i ran the ipodpatcher it searched for my iPod and asked if i wanted to run the rockbox bootloader (y/n). I typed y, and it said successfully installed the bootloader.
But I want to have the iPL Loader 2 Boot Menu like so:
http://www.alwaysbeta.com/wp-content/uploads/smcbride/rockbox/ipod_1.jpg
So I can run both the apple and rockbox firmware. But right now I just have the rockbox bootloader menu.
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Don't just run ipodpatcher, run it with the command "ipodpatcher -ab loader.bin"
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okay, i will try this and let you now if it went through linuxstb. btw, thank you for trying to help me :D
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you could try using the official installer on the ipodlinux page. this would install ipodlinux and loader 2.4 if you check the box to install that. but your iPod needs to be running an Apple Firmware older than Sept. 12, 2006.
if you have newer firmware you could also try this link posted hear. http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=15153
this will not install ipodlinux and it will only install rockbox and ipodlinux bootloader 2.4.
if this method doesn't work you could also try this instlaller http://miche.aqua-gero.com/
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Don't just run ipodpatcher, run it with the command "ipodpatcher -ab loader.bin"
linuxstb, can you please tell me exactly how to "run it with the command "ipodpatcher -ab loader.bin" "?
For instance I have saved the lastest version of the ipodpatcher to a folder under my c: drive called rockbox.
I click the ipodpatcher application and it asks run or cancel i click run. Then it searchs for my ipod, and the follows by asking "Do you wish to install the rockbox bootloader? (y/n). I can ONLY type y or n.
Where in there do i type the command "ipodpatcher -ab loader.bin"? Because if i type anything other then y or n it automatically closes the command prompt.
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You run it from the command prompt - in the same way you were running commands from the command prompt in the screenshots you posted.
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Thank you so much for all your help linuxstb!! I finally got it to work. But now I have another problem. When I try to play my music, it does not work, now. The screen comes on with all the music's information but it does not play, even if I click play/pause. It just stays at 0:00
Anyone have any idea why? I could use help, I dont know what could have caused this. Before the iPL Loader2 Boot Menu Installation, everything was playing fine, but now..? ???
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is this when you try to play music in rockbox firmware or apple firmware?
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this is when i try it with the rockbox firmware.
My music in the apple firmware does not work because i removed the /music folder from the hidden iPod_control folder.
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this problem has happened to me.
what i did is i downloaded the current build and i extracted it to the root of my ipod. it worked after that for me.
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okay, i will try that now, lets see if it will work :)
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when i plug in my iPod through the usb, it shows the usb in the iPod screen, but it does not load to my computer or to itunes. what happened? ???
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Which version of Rockbox did you install? An official "current build" or one of the unofficial builds?
You need to force your ipod into disk mode - make sure the hold switch is turned off, then hold MENU+SELECT together for about 5 seconds until your ipod reboots, then immediately press and hold SELECT+PLAY. Your computer should then see it.
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I installed an unsupported build. I have Julius' latest builds: "jbuild".
this problem has happened to me.
what i did is i downloaded the current build and i extracted it to the root of my ipod. it worked after that for me.
Is this the correct current build for my 30gb video iPod fugot mentions?:
http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip
If I extract it to the root of my iPod, wouldn't Juilius' themes and builds not function properly?
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"Unsupported builds" are called that for a reason - if you have problems or questions, you need to ask in the forum thread for that build.
But yes, that's the correct link for the official build.
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and yes if you install it would make those themes not work.
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Okay, I installed the official build, and the music works fine now except no music info, or anything relating to Julius' theme and jbuild.
Fugot, did you stay with the current build for you iPod when you downloaded it or do you have a theme you are currently using that needs an unsupported build to make it work correctly?
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you also could try redownloading the build that you were using and extract that to the root of your ipod.
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you also could try redownloading the build that you were using and extract that to the root of your ipod.
I redownloaded the jBuild and extracted (which overwrote the files from the current official build) that to the root of my iPod.
Still the same problem, music will not play staying at 0:00
Do you know if anyone has experienced any problems like this in the past when they downloaded the iPL Loader2 Boot Menu, then tried to play music but wouln't work? And does anyone here have the jthemes/jbuild, and know what can fix this problem that could possibly help me out?
I will try asking in the proper thread for it here:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4417.0
If any of you can help me with this problem, head over there, so I don't get in trouble for asking questions about unsupported builds in this thread.
Thankyou for all your help! :D
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it shouldn't matter if you use loader 2 or not. when you use loader 2 it is just a diffrent way of booting the rockbox firmware.
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oh okay. But before I download the loader2, music was working perfectly, after download of loader2 music wont play.
i have no idea what could be causing this though. do you have any other suggestions? ???
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so did you redownload the build?
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the jbuild? yes
everything is aligned properly to work with the jclix theme but music wont play.
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then plugin your ipod. delete the .rockbox folder. then extract all of the files to the root of your ipod.
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then extract all of the files to the root of your ipod.
do you mean i download the jbuild once again and instead of having it in the .rockbox(which by is now deleted) i extract all of its content into the root of the iPod?
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no. you deleat the .rockbox folder form your ipod and also delete the rockbox.ipod file. then you extract the .zip file to your ipod.
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im sorry for asking so many questions, i just dont want to do it wrong and not be able to go back.
also delete the rockbox.ipod file
i won't need this file later? or is it found in the jbuild zip?
then you extract the .zip file to your ipod.
by that you mean extract the jbuild zip to root of ipod, right?
Thank you for trying to help me fugot, you are very kind. I just am a little new and slow at trying to work around rockbox ;)
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yes you delete the rockbox.ipod file. it will be included in the jbuild zip
and yes you extract the .zip file you will need some program to do this.
you can use winrar, winzip, or any other zip archiever.
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... and if you're not sure: copy the .rockbox folder and rockbox.ipod file to your computer before deleting them. But you'll never need them.