Rockbox Technical Forums
Support and General Use => Audio Playback, Database and Playlists => Topic started by: HiddenShadow on September 26, 2008, 01:33:48 AM
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I've tried looking everywhere (or maybe every wrong place) and couldn't find any info about getting my iTunes playlists onto rockbox, I've tried transfering itunes playlists to winamp to make a m3u/pls (which ever rockbox uses, forgot what i did back then..) which failed horribly since I could only make it with the mp3s pathed on my local disk instead of my ipod. So, does anyone know how to transfer iTunes playlists or ratings to the database in rockbox?
Im sort of looking for something other than, "start over and re rate all your songs and redo your playlists", however just figuring out how to do the ratings will suffice, but I'd still like to know how to do both.
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There are 3rd party tools that allow exporting your itunes playlists to m3u, which can be read by Rockbox. If those playlists keep the correct folder structure Rockbox will work fine with them -- an added drive letter will get stripped.
You can't convert itunes ratings to Rockbox.
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Ok, thanks, but is it possible to convert the playlist and then make every track in that playlist rated (like make then all 10's etc)? or is it just easier to add tracks i like by adding tracks onto the pre-existing playlist instead of changing the ratings?
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Doesn't iTunes use a database for all of that stuff? Rockbox just uses standard M3U playlists so I'm not sure what you mean by storing the rating in the playlist.
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Doesn't iTunes use a database for all of that stuff? Rockbox just uses standard M3U playlists so I'm not sure what you mean by storing the rating in the playlist.
The database has a rating system in place, does it not?
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Yes, but there's not a desktop application that will make the conversion from Apple's iTunesDB to the Rockbox runtime database. Maybe you could write one. ;)
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HAHA, you wish, I have no programming skills whatsoever, used to barely know VB, but thats gone too now. :D
Thanks for the help tho, ill try the playlist thing again, and hopefully i'll get it to work this time.
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Try here:
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsefulTools#Playlist_Tools
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Try here:
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsefulTools#Playlist_Tools
Yay, playlist converter, and then some! I have to learn how to use that wiki some day, but I really wish it were a "standarized" wiki like on wikipedia and other sites. And that UsefulTools page should be added onto extras shouldn't it? I mean, its pretty useful.. ;)
Thanks
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There's no such thing as a wiki "standard." I expect you just mean you wish we used MediaWiki, but not all tools are equally suited for all purposes, and Twiki got chosen for this one.
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It would be nice if the rockbox wiki was searchable
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That would be what the "Search" link on every page of the wiki in the top left next to the Go box is for. If you click it, you get to this page http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebSearch that lets you search the wiki...
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"Search" doesn't work so well. The wiki site could be improved no end.
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You asked that it be searchable. I just intended to point out that it can, in fact, be searched.
Twiki is open source. Any improvements you feel that could be made to it, feel free to contribute to their project.
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It can be searched of course. It takes two or three clicks to get there. That's bad design in my opinion
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From any page in the wiki it takes one click to get to the search page.
If you have complaints about how Twiki works, contact their project.
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From any page in the wiki it takes one click to get to the search page.
Okay try searching for 'superman' in the search field at top right. A proper search takes at least two clicks.
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That's the "Go" box. It isn't, nor does it claim to be, a search box.
It takes one click to get to the search page. Click on the word "Search". And no matter how many clicks it takes, it's a far cry from your original position that it's not searchable.
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whoa, off topic... ;D
Well I deleted my iTunes folder and use the itunes export thing to export my itunes playlists and then put my music folder (as it is in itunes - same folder [C:\Media copied to ipod:\Media]) into my ipod, and updated the database, however once it finishes updating, it fails to show anything in the database, it doesn't even show artists/album/etc, its just blank.
The playlists do work though, on the up side, is this a 3.0 bug ??? or should I just reinstall (ill try that now)
Also when changing songs, it was hanging/using the hd alot and playing the previous song for more than 10-15 sec before finally changing.
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Do you know that your files are definitely tagged properly and in a format Rockbox accepts (as in, have you checked their tags in something besides iTunes)?
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Do you know that your files are definitely tagged properly and in a format Rockbox accepts (as in, have you checked their tags in something besides iTunes)?
Yeah I used to use winamp, and my files showed up fine, except for a few (like <5%)
Maybe the buffer was too full?
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What do you mean by "my files showed up fine"? I asked about the tags, and I'm not at all familiar with winamp.
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What do you mean by "my files showed up fine"? I asked about the tags, and I'm not at all familiar with winamp.
The tags in winamp showed up fine, and I think winamp uses id3v1/2
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A quick google suggests winamp can also display ApeV2 tags.
Another thing to check is your tagnavi.config and tagnavi_custom.config, if they're corrupted or blank it can keep the database from working properly.
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A quick google suggests winamp can also display ApeV2 tags.
Another thing to check is your tagnavi.config and tagnavi_custom.config, if they're corrupted or blank it can keep the database from working properly.
Well it was most likely corrupt then, because while updating, I resetted, thinking that it would start all over if I re-updated, or would this have not caused the problem?
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Well, nothing writes to those files in Rockbox. They could only be corrupted when copying to your device, or with filesystem errors.
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might it be worth downloading a program like mp3tag, clearing the database, cleaning folders of all tags, retagging (write in a single format) and then updating the database again?
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It'd be an awful lot of work to go through if it turns out to not fix his problem, or if his problem can be fixed with less work. It'd be better to attempt to diagnose it first, rather than ask him to possibly have his computer work for some time retagging his files.
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Reinstalled Rockbox 3.0, hopefully it'll build without messing up this time..
Also I've always wondered why the building database... ____ found, always goes over the number of tracks I have. Why is that?
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I have honestly no clue. Does it look like a significant multiple of the number of tracks you have? (Like, if you have 1000, and it comes out 4000 or higher)?
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Its usually near a multiple of 1.5-2, have 3500, shows up over 5500.
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It could represent the number of unique tags, possibly. Every album will have one album tag, one artist tack, many tracks, and possibly a variety of other tags (comments etc). I really don't know what it is, but that would be my guess based on almost no evidence whatsoever.
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(I've got a very similar error when building the database on my iPod 80GB so avoided it)
Seriously I know I'm no expert (in fact I'm technically crap) but I BET if you simply copied your existing 'music' folder over to another drive and retagged A SAMPLE FOLDER, copied it to your device and initialised the database again, everything would be hunky dory....?
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what do you mean by a sample folder?
Edit: it just finished, and i went to DB and it said the database is not ready (yet again), even though it "found" 6000+ "tracks"..
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Did you properly shut down and then boot back up after initializing?
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Yeah, forgot to do that, it works fine now, thanks for your help!
But the first time it didn't work, was something else. :-\
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Try here:
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsefulTools#Playlist_Tools
Just wanted to bump this and say thanks, this helped. I've used the iTunes Export to export my iTunes playlists, and create .m3u playlists, as well as copy the files.