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Installation / Removal => Manual Installation => Iriver - Installation/Removal/Flashing => Topic started by: gms1 on February 23, 2011, 06:52:41 PM

Title: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: gms1 on February 23, 2011, 06:52:41 PM: Hi All,

I recently had to format my iH140.

This seemed to go okay however I could not boot Rockbox afterwards although Rockbox bootloader started up. Is this because Rockbox is stored on the HDD?

So, player hung at bootloader screen ("Version 5, Batt: 4.09V"). Used a paperclip to reset and loaded original iriver firmware (V1.65)

This shows zero folders and zero songs although I did add some music files and folders.
Also only folder that does show has a name which looks like gibberish.

I have tried flashing an unpatched copy of firmware but this doesn't seem to do anything (I performed a "firmware upgrade" when running iriver firmware)

I have tried the rockbox utility to install / uninstall everything but seem to be going round in circles.

I have also trawled the forums and couldn't find anything that helped.

This is a bit of last resort so hope someone can help or point me in the direction of a post that I might have missed.

Thanks in advance.

G
Title: Re: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: bluebrother on February 24, 2011, 01:22:17 PM: Quote from: gms1 on February 23, 2011, 06:52:41 PM
Is this because Rockbox is stored on the HDD?

yes. That's the reason why you have to install two parts when installing Rockbox.

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This shows zero folders and zero songs although I did add some music files and folders.
Also only folder that does show has a name which looks like gibberish.

Sounds like filesystem errors. Did you safely disconnect / unmount your player after copying data to it?

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I have tried the rockbox utility to install / uninstall everything but seem to be going round in circles.

This should fix the problem (assuming that you install the Rockbox build, not only the bootloader). If it does not please check the filesystem. The other symptoms you describe also indicate that there's something wrong with it.
Title: Re: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: Llorean on February 24, 2011, 02:20:12 PM: Also, what type of file system did you format it with?
Title: Re: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: gms1 on February 25, 2011, 02:16:03 AM: Hi,

Thanks for the replies.

The drive is formatted in NTFS.

I tried using the rockbox utility again last night to re install but still nothing.
The installation of rockbox seems to go okay and when I connect via USB I can see the rockbox folder with everything in it.

The main problems are 1) The rockbox bootloader starts but just hangs, does not run rockbox and 2) If I boot into original OS this starts up but will not find any music I have on the player.

If I remember rightly when navigating the file system in the original OS there is a folder called "Root"?
That folder has a name containing chinese type characters on my player.

Is there any way to get this "Root" folder back in the original OS?

Thanks again for your help, much appreciated.

G
Title: Re: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: AlexP on February 25, 2011, 03:29:05 AM: Rockbox and the iriver firmware only support FAT32
Title: Re: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: pirati on March 08, 2012, 11:35:29 AM: Quote from: gms1 on February 23, 2011, 06:52:41 PM
This shows zero folders and zero songs although I did add some music files and folders.
Also only folder that does show has a name which looks like gibberish.

I have tried flashing an unpatched copy of firmware but this doesn't seem to do anything (I performed a "firmware upgrade" when running iriver firmware)

I have exactly the same problem. First thought it was a HDD failure, so replaced the original HDD with a new one, but still the same problem.

My PC detects the HD, I can put files and folders on it, but the player still doesn't seem able to recognize the HD. Formated HD in FAT32, so that is not the problem.

Also not able to upgrade firmware, even if I copied it on the root: the player doesn't seem to detect the file.

Any thoughts ?
Title: Re: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: bluebrother on March 08, 2012, 02:19:31 PM: Quote from: pirati on March 08, 2012, 11:35:29 AM
Any thoughts ?

Yes. Be more specific.
Title: Re: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: pirati on March 08, 2012, 03:29:22 PM: Quote from: bluebrother on March 08, 2012, 02:19:31 PM
Yes. Be more specific.
Here's a try:
my H120 worked fine until one day:
- the player itself stopped detecting data on the hard disk
- the player indicates 0 files, 0 folders, 0 bytes free
- the player does not find its root directory
- the player does not react to firmware upgrade

on the other hand, when connected to PC:
- PC recognises the player as external storage (with the right disk size)
- I am able to copy files and create directories on the drive
- I am able to copy firmware update to de root of the drive

As I first thought this was a hard disk problem, I replaced the hard disk.
After replacing and formating the hard disk in the right format, I still have the same situation: PC detects disk, player functions are working, but player seems unable to 'see' the HD ?

Any other information/details you would need to give an 'educated' response ?

Thanks
Title: Re: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: bluebrother on March 08, 2012, 05:20:41 PM: Quote from: pirati on March 08, 2012, 03:29:22 PM
As I first thought this was a hard disk problem, I replaced the hard disk.
After replacing and formating the hard disk in the right format, I still have the same situation: PC detects disk, player functions are working, but player seems unable to 'see' the HD ?

How did you format the hard disk? I assume that the original firmware still starts up. It provides a format option, have you tried this? Is the hard disk formatted with a partition table or as "superfloppy"?
Title: Re: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: pirati on March 09, 2012, 05:58:10 PM: Quote from: bluebrother on March 08, 2012, 05:20:41 PM
How did you format the hard disk? I assume that the original firmware still starts up. It provides a format option, have you tried this? Is the hard disk formatted with a partition table or as "superfloppy"?
a. HD: fat32
b. yes, tried format, didn't change anything
Title: Re: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: bluebrother on March 10, 2012, 12:04:57 PM: Quote from: pirati on March 09, 2012, 05:58:10 PM
b. yes, tried format, didn't change anything

What does this mean? Does the disk have a partition table or not?
Title: Re: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: pirati on March 10, 2012, 12:47:31 PM: Quote from: bluebrother on March 10, 2012, 12:04:57 PM
Quote from: pirati on March 09, 2012, 05:58:10 PM
b. yes, tried format, didn't change anything

What does this mean? Does the disk have a partition table or not?
Here's the info on the disk partition:
Partition Type ID: 0x7
File system: FAT32
First Physical Sector: 63
Last Physical Sector: 78108029
Total Physical Sector: 37.24 GB

File system info:
Sectors per cluster: 32
Number of Fats: 2
Reserverd sectors: 32
Sectors per FAT: 19070
Root 1st Cluster NO.: 2

Number
Title: Re: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: bluebrother on March 10, 2012, 02:41:46 PM: Have you tried formatting the disk using the format function of the original firmware? Does this change the situation?
Title: Re: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: pirati on March 10, 2012, 03:00:09 PM: Quote from: bluebrother on March 10, 2012, 02:41:46 PM
Have you tried formatting the disk using the format function of the original firmware? Does this change the situation?
Where do I find this function ? If it is the 'Load default' in the General Settings menu: yes, tried it but doesn't change anything.
Also tried holding 'record' and pushing 'play' (saw somewhere else this should format), but that didn't work either...

(Thanks for your time, BTW !)
Title: Re: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: bluebrother on March 10, 2012, 06:45:46 PM: Quote from: pirati on March 10, 2012, 03:00:09 PM
Where do I find this function ? If it is the 'Load default' in the General Settings menu: yes, tried it but doesn't change anything.

It's somewhere in the menu (look for "format disk"). Can't tell you the exact name or location since I removed the Iriver firmware years ago.
Title: Re: Problems removing / reinstalling R.Box and OF
Post by: pirati on March 10, 2012, 07:32:34 PM: There isn't a 'format disk' function in the menus (I checked the manual).
Only thing is the 'load default', which should initialize all settings to original factory settings.
I tried this option, but doesn't change anything.

Since my PC recognizes the disk, I guess this problem isn't caused by hardware ?