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VanJay011379
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Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
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April 06, 2005, 02:20:00 PM »
Hello,
I have an Archos Jukebox 20 mp3 recorder.
Is there any way I can record lossless such as wav, flac, ape?
Archos said it will not be supported at
http://www.archos.com/support/faq/faq_jukebox_recorder.html#category_4
Also, I noticed the manual on this site at
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxManual
says wav cannot be done. How about another lossless format?
Sincerely,
Chris
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LinusN
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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
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April 06, 2005, 03:00:36 PM »
Only MP3 is possible.
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PaRu
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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
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April 08, 2005, 11:25:08 AM »
it is a little bit like the question which i had with the aac files.
can anybody tell me what sort of hardware the jukebox does have? why isn't it possible to encode / decode other codecs? wav files should be at leesed possible because you only have to take the result from the AD-converter and write it down in a file.
if games and other self written stuff can be played, why ain't it possible to create wav-files?
Patrick
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LinusN
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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
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April 08, 2005, 02:54:04 PM »
The jukebox has a dedicated MP3 chip called MAS3507D (Player/Studio) or MAS3587F (Recorder). This chip can only handle MP3. In theory, we can reprogram the DSP in the MAS35xx to handle WAV, but the full documentation for the DSP is not publicly available...
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[IDC]Dragon
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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
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April 09, 2005, 03:12:07 AM »
I'm working on this. Both Archos and Micronas decisionmakers have agreed to publish the MAS software to us, I was present in that meeting (at the CeBIT).
Now they just have to move, wrap and ship this this. I'm expecting it any day.
Jörg
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LinusN
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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
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April 09, 2005, 03:32:12 AM »
Hehe, that's quite good news, I must say.
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PaRu
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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
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April 09, 2005, 05:56:48 AM »
how powerfull is the MAS35xx? may it be possible to decode aac? a problem could be, that the memory of the flash of dsp could be to small to store other codecs?
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LinusN
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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
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April 09, 2005, 10:43:18 AM »
The program memory of the MAS is very limited. I'm afraid there isn't much more we can do than WAV.
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freelunch
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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
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April 09, 2005, 11:22:52 AM »
Being able to record wav would be an outstanding addition to Rockbox for these models!
As you are well aware, not many devicse support stereo wav recording.
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PaRu
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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
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April 11, 2005, 12:13:04 PM »
@LinusN
the V2 and the Recorder have the same dsp, so the have the same program memory, but the recorder doesn't decode jpg and divx. So this part of the program memory is unused. so it could be possible to implement other codec on the recoder?
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LinusN
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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
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April 12, 2005, 01:18:51 AM »
The V2 doesn't decode divx either. Both can decode jpg, but that isn't done by the DSP.
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PaRu
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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
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April 12, 2005, 08:24:56 AM »
Sorry, maybe i haven't understood something generall. Ain't the Archos Jukebox Multimedia 20 and V2 the same? I have the Multimedia 20 and it can decode divx/xvid.
Patrick
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LinusN
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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
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April 12, 2005, 04:17:39 PM »
No, they are not the same. The V2 is an FM recorder without radio.
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PaRu
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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
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April 13, 2005, 06:55:57 AM »
so the rockbox does not support the multimedia 20? :'(
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LinusN
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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
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April 13, 2005, 07:23:18 AM »
No.
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