A simple test everyone with a remote can try - Remote Recording interference

[whatboutbob]

to everyone who has reported figures above...is it safe to assume that your min peakmeter range is set to -89?  Otherwise it doesn't tell us much...

[Mmmm]

to everyone who has reported figures above...is it safe to assume that your min peakmeter range is set to -89?  Otherwise it doesn't tell us much...

Good point..heh heh..hadn't thought of that! 

Although you can still see that everyone (so far) has some interference...

It would be interesting to know whether the people that have voted  can also hear ticking when they have the ticking fix set to off when playing music (press pause and listen carefully while playing a track)

I would just like to point out that the interference that I initially started the thread about is an entirely different problem to the cell phone interference that whatboutbob was talking about.... Looking at some other comments elsewhere, I think some people are getting confused! Hope that clears it up.

[whatboutbob]

Sorry to confuse things Mmmm!

Apparently the MicroTrack may have a similar issue (not the cellphone thing...the bit that Mmmm's on about).  It seems a strategically placed piece of foil may fix it...or at least improve it.  Looking into it now.

[Hansmaulwurf]

to everyone who has reported figures above...is it safe to assume that your min peakmeter range is set to -89?  Otherwise it doesn't tell us much...

Yes, its safe .

[fatoldpig]

starts at left gain 31 and right gain 26. no change with ticking on or off.

[Mmmm]

For the person who voted No: Do you get ticking with the ticking fix off when playing a track? (pause playback and listen, you should hear some weird bup bup bup noises)

[renho3k]

what exactly does the ticking interference sound like (both the cellphone type and the thread topic)? is it loud, overbearing, continuous, subtle, etc? i tried to listen for it on whoever's myspace page (i think mmmm's) but didn't hear anything that sounded off. is it something subtle that can only be detected if you're recording something rather quiet, like acoustic settings? i can see the interference in the meters but i've never actually heard anything in the recordings that showed distortion/interruption of sound. if it's a shielding problem, i suppose it can't be fixed but i was just wondering how concerned one should be about it ruining recordings. i've grown to love the remote for recording purposes, especially stealthing concerts, but if it's a big concern, i'd rather not risk ruining a show and just not use the remote during recordings.

[Mmmm]

what exactly does the ticking interference sound like (both the cellphone type and the thread topic)? is it loud, overbearing, continuous, subtle, etc? i tried to listen for it on whoever's myspace page (i think mmmm's) but didn't hear anything that sounded off.

Yeah, that's me. The recordings you listened to were made without the remote attached (because of the interference). The interference is not extremely loud and you probably couldn't hear it if there was some other sound being recorded at the same time. But if you are trying to make professional recordings you don't really want this kind of noise in the background.

The phone interference you can hear is in the track "capricho arabe" and appears at about 2:10. this is just normal mobile phone interference that you have probably heard when your phone is near your headphone wire or some other speaker cable.

is it something subtle that can only be detected if you're recording something rather quiet, like acoustic settings? i can see the interference in the meters but i've never actually heard anything in the recordings that showed distortion/interruption of sound. if it's a shielding problem, i suppose it can't be fixed but i was just wondering how concerned one should be about it ruining recordings. i've grown to love the remote for recording purposes, especially stealthing concerts, but if it's a big concern, i'd rather not risk ruining a show and just not use the remote during recordings.

I would say that if you haven't noticed it then it probably isn't a big concern for you! Personally just knowing it is there even if I cant hear it is enough to stop me using the remote...stupid eh?

[renho3k]

Personally just knowing it is there even if I cant hear it is enough to stop me using the remote...stupid eh?

haha, actually that's why i was asking because it seems like some of you are taking the step to not use it and i was wondering if that was extreme or something i should also consider.

[whatboutbob]

I first noticed the remote inteference when you're recording a quiet gig and using a lot of gain (30+).  Its not a major prob for me cos I use an external pre/adc, but I'm anal so I only use the remote when recording when I have to.

Also, just to temporarily hijack the thread again (sorry Mmmm)...but to clear up some suggestions I made earlier in the thread...after a bunch of tests I've isolated the cell phone interference issue to my mics (ie not the iriver) being sensitive to RFI.

Apparently it is much more of an issue in Australia (compared to the US) because of the nature of its mobile phone network (pretty much everyone is on GSM 900/1800 Dual Band).  I think many Euro countries may be similarly affected (but don't quote me on that).

Anyways, it has become the scourge of my recording existence so I think I'll eventually buy some rfi-protected mics for far too much money.

[petur]

I have at least one recording that's ruined by a nearmy cellphone. Was using a cheap skytronic mic and on external pre-amp though...

[renho3k]

thanks for the clarifications guys 

[Davide-NYC]

I don't know about interference, but I most certainly get a ticking sound when I record from line-in with the remote plugged in.

Urghh. (crappity)

[Zeke]

Hi All:

Sorry to make a zombie thread if this has been covered elsewhere - but is the remote noise issue still a problem?  I haven't used it during recording yet and I'd like to.

I suppose tonight I won't until I hear a def. yes or no.

Cheers,

Zeke

[Davide-NYC]

There is a "sort-of" fix, but it simply turns off the remote LCD by pressing Vol(-) on the remote.
Whenever the display on the remote changes it induces a noise. Since the peakmeters are constantly changing, as well as the Time and Size lines, you'll always get noise.

On the other hand, if you get good with the "Remote Display Off" trick you'll do well, especially if you combine this with the Remote clip-light feature, which works even when the remote is "Disabled".

But, in my opinion, if you are serious about recording do not use the remote. Too risky.