Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?

[mrmagic526]

Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?

Maybe make a separate build for that one?  It helps on battery life.

Oh by the way I love rockbox and I will send some cash when I get some money owed to me by my roommate later this month.

Any chance of getting ms pacman on the pacbox?

Magicman

[saratoga]

Its already supported.

[mrmagic526]

I'm using the latest cvs build and when I go to the INFO page it says buffer 29.573MB it's not using the 64mb of ram that the 5g 60 gig has.  the 30 gig version has 32 meg.  So it seems that rockbox is treating all of the 5g ipods the same even though one has double the ram.


Magicman

[linuxstb]

There are no developers with a 60GB 5g, so no-one has been able to add support for the extra memory.

Your best chance of getting support added is to learn how to compile Rockbox from source and how to apply patches, and then come to the Rockbox IRC and try and find a developer willing to try to develop a patch with your help as a tester.  But don't ask until after Rockbox 3.0 is released...

[mrmagic526]

Cool I'll wait until 3.0 and I'll be MORE than happy to help.

Magicman

[mrmagic526]

Is there somewhere I can go that can teach me how to compile and patch rockbox?  I'd love to help out in anyway I can.

Edit.... Never mind I found the info in the wiki.   Guess it requires linux?  Well I guess I could use my xbox to compile since I have gentoox linux installed on it.

Magicman

[that_asian_guy]

doesnt require linux, just vmware player

[orfax]

Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?

I believe its there already. I think all it needs is a small adjustment in the configure script prior to building (ie change memory=32 to memory=64). I'll give it a go and let you know in the next couple of days.

Is there somewhere I can go that can teach me how to compile and patch rockbox?...
Guess it requires linux?  Well I guess I could use my xbox to compile since I have gentoox linux installed on it.

What about using cygwin on a PC.

[saratoga]

Well I feel stupid.  I thought all the 5Gs had 64 MB of memory, and thus the script would work.

[mrmagic526]

Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?

I believe its there already. I think all it needs is a small adjustment in the configure script prior to building (ie change memory=32 to memory=64). I'll give it a go and let you know in the next couple of days.

Is there somewhere I can go that can teach me how to compile and patch rockbox?...
Guess it requires linux?  Well I guess I could use my xbox to compile since I have gentoox linux installed on it.

What about using cygwin on a PC.

Awesome.... I tried figuring out how to compile.....  I suck....  If you need someone to test your compilation and the 64 meg buffer, I'm all for it.  Just let me know I'll give you my email address and you can email me the file.

[mrmagic526]

Well I feel stupid.  I thought all the 5Gs had 64 MB of memory, and thus the script would work.

Yup they added the extra ram to the 60 gig to increase the buffer and to be able to load more songs on one disk access to increase the battery life.  The 60 gig has an "advertised" battery life of 20 hours (doubt anyone sees that) and the 30 gig I think has an advertised battery life of 12 hours.  That's one of the main reasons I chose the 60 gig.  Honestly I only have used 20 gigs of mine even with videos, about 4000 songs, ipod linux and rockbox. 

I go in waves.  Sometimes I go all out and try to find a ton of music then I stop for a while.  Just depends on if I'm hunting for a song or not.  When I do I end up getting a ton more.

[ZAPPAJOE]

Any other advantages to compiling for 64MB other than battery life ?  For me the battery life isn't a real issue since I use my iPod with a car adapter 90% of the time.  Just curious if I should look into learning how to compile on my own . . .

[Llorean]

The 64mb won't affect anything but battery life. The disk will spin up half as often, and since that's a major drain, you'll see a decent improvement _if_ you listen to playlists straight through and almost never browse/skip. If you make a habit of skipping songs alot, and browse your catalogue alot to pick new tracks, the 64mb can actually mean worse life, if it's spending time buffering 64mb of ram, but you only listen to 20mb of music, on average, before picking another song somewhere and forcing a rebuffer.

[Murmur2k]

Interesting point Llorean

[Llorean]

The main reason 64mb isn't used right now is that we don't have a way of detecting if there's 32 or 64mb on the device, and don't want to have two builds for the 5G, one for 30gig models and one for 64gig models. As it is, just changing the RAM size define isn't enough. A few more changes probably need to be set throughout the code, but it's not big stuff, so a custom compile for yourself with those changes shouldn't be too tough. I don't know which ones exactly to make, but if you show up on IRC, someone there might be able to answer, and once one of you has done it, maybe post what values need to be changed to help others?