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Offline jaylee

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Stop after current
« on: March 06, 2011, 04:26:07 AM »
Foobar2000 has a menu item called "Stop after current", which simply stops playback when the currently playing track ends.
I wonder whether a DAP needs this feature...
« Last Edit: March 06, 2011, 04:29:20 AM by jaylee »
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Offline AlexP

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2011, 06:52:46 AM »
I don't know, does it?
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Offline sideral

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2011, 04:07:17 PM »
My Squeezebox players have this feature as well, and I've used it numerous times (for example when leaving the house or when going to sleep). I indeed have been noting Rockbox's lack of this feature myself, but so far my degree of suffering hasn't been big enough to care to implement it.
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2011, 04:22:41 PM »
As a workaround, you could just keep a track of silence and choose to "Play next".
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2011, 06:10:35 PM »
Wouldn't it make more sense, when going to sleep, to have a playlist that stops some generic time in the future (say, 30 minutes, or 7 songs) rather than "at the end of this song?"

I find I rarely know exactly when I'm going to fall asleep once I'm in bed.

I also don't get the usefulness when leaving the house. If you can do that, can't you just press stop? And if you want it to keep playing for a little while after you leave, why again exactly one song?

I can see a "pause at the end of this track" feature as being useful, for example, when doing sound effects or other stuff for a performance, or for when practicing something and having it repeat but wanting it to pause each time so that you're not finding yourself waiting on spinups / buffers or whatnot. But I'm not really sure I get the full "stop" for this track, rather than a regular end of playlist stop.

Maybe if we knew the use cases (and in the case of the ones expressed already, the reasons why "stop at the end of this track" is expected to be the best solution) to see if maybe there's something that makes more sense, or an existing feature that already addresses them?
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Offline sideral

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2011, 06:46:56 PM »
Quote from: Llorean on March 06, 2011, 06:10:35 PM
I find I rarely know exactly when I'm going to fall asleep once I'm in bed.

I also don't get the usefulness when leaving the house. If you can do that, can't you just press stop? And if you want it to keep playing for a little while after you leave, why again exactly one song?

Good question. I don't fully remember what I thought when I used the feature, but I think it usually has to do with implicitly programming what will be resumed when I next power on the player: When I know the player turns off after the current track, I also know that it will play the next track when next powered on.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2011, 07:00:22 PM »
It seems that would also be accomplished by "pause at end of track" since there's already an idle poweroff.
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Offline bluebrother

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2011, 02:08:46 AM »
There's also a patch in the tracker for pause after track.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2011, 03:36:09 AM »
Yeah, I think pause after track is a good feature since I'm pretty sure it would address most (if not all) use cases for stop after track, and a whole lot more of its own use cases.
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Offline JdGordon

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2011, 07:47:57 AM »
except that patch is very dangerous (unless its changed since i last looked?) (i.e using the track changed events to stop playback)
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Offline Gyro

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2011, 05:04:43 AM »
By "pause at the end of this track", do we mean the same as pause at the beginning of the next track? 
That's the feature I'm looking for. 
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Offline Dynamic

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2011, 11:31:45 AM »
Another use case that led me to search for "Stop after current" and finally get round to registering here:

A friend of mine would like to use this feature for backing tracks over which he sings and sometimes plays guitar when performing for audiences without an sound engineer. He already has an iPad for the resumption of his singing career (plugged into his mixer/effects box) and has to use a workaround of putting each track as a separate album with its own playlist in iTunes before  synchronizing. We've had to do a good deal of preparation and editing anyway - 2 second lead-in per track, no lead-out and some other edits, so that's a minor inconvenience and it doesn't require a change of mode to play a multitrack playlist/album of recorded music during the interval, so we might consider using the same workaround on a device like a Sansa Clip with or without Rockbox.

After each track he can then bypass his mic effects at the press of a button and talk to the audience and select the next backing track from the iPad (as an album/playlist) ready to start the next song. He'd like a backup music player in case the iPad fails or goes into some mode like zoomed-in display he can't get out of thanks to an inadvertant touch gesture (this has happened, delaying the start of a gig for 10 minutes!) and it might supercede the iPad, relegating that to be the backup device, especially if it's possible to pre-plan the likely running order in a playlist so the next track is already selected, waiting for him to press play or change track if there's a change in running order.
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2011, 01:17:03 PM »
"Pause between tracks" seems to address this use case too.
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Offline guttersnipe098

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clear playlist button
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2011, 12:24:17 PM »
Hi!

I'd like to see a 'clear dynamic playlist' option in the Playlist menu (which currently has the following options: View Current Playlist, Search In Playlist, Saver Current Playlist, Reshuffle).

I've been using Rockbox for over a year, but I've yet to figure out how to clear the current playlist. In that year, several times I was away from a computer (couldn't pull up the documentation) and spent a half-hour searching through the menu for this option! Today I was so frustrated that finally had a chance to google this feature (and realized I'm not alone in this frustration).

I know now (not intuitively, but through Google) that I can press 'stop' to clear the playlist--but WHERE IS THE STOP BUTTON? My Sansa Fuze has a toggle play/pause button, but no built-in stop button. Yes, I realize that I can read the documentation to find how to 'stop,' but I shouldn't *have* to (for such a simple feature). I'm not asking for someone to tell me how to do this; I'm requesting that Rockbox add an obvious 'clear dynamic playlist' button to the Playlist menu. I feel that this change will improve the intuitive nature of this project, which will improve Rockbox as a whole.

I love FOSS, but this functionality is incredibly unintuitive, which is a common complaint against FOSS. Don't let rockbox fall into this stereotype! Good software is at least functional, documented, *and* intuitive.

Meta request: Please create a uservoice or similar idea/feature submission application as it would provide much better organization and prioritization of feature requests.


Cheers,
Michael
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Offline saratoga

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Re: clear playlist button
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2011, 01:11:30 PM »
Quote from: guttersnipe098 on March 17, 2011, 12:24:17 PM
Meta request: Please create a uservoice or similar idea/feature submission application as it would provide much better organization and prioritization of feature requests.

Just a reminder, we don't accept feature requests, so please do not post them on our patch tracker anymore. 
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